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LogGrad98 said:
The only way it would be better is he is male. Many R voters won't be caught dead voting for a black person. Add in female with it and frankly the Democrats fielded about the worst candidate they could find besides dementia Joe. So in that regard, Obama would be better, but the heavily racist bulk of the R voters would ensure his victory wouldn't be that close.

Honestly if the Democrat ticket were reversed and Walz was the P and Harris the VP they'd win much more comfortably. Many R swing voters would be a more more comfortable voting for a white male. I look at my parents as an example. They get how devastating a trump presidency would be for the country, but they are trying to talk themselves out of voting for Harris. They are in Utah, so Trump will win anyway, they say. Or I don't like either of them, maybe I just won't vote. When I ask what they don't like about Trump they have a litany of relevant things to say. When I ask them what they dislike about Harris it's a bunch of hemming a hawing, because when they think about it, her gender and race still bother them. They just don't want to face that. But they are almost 90. For them racism was just ingrained, although I've always considered them to be pretty fair and balanced, especially as compared to many in their generation. But that generational attitude is damn tough to break through. I'll get them to vote, my mom is kind of excited to vote for the first female president. But you can tell it still irks them a little bit. Tough pill to swallow when they spent 30+ years of their lives in segregation and the constant racist culture of the era, especially given it was their formative years. There are plenty like them, only swinging harder to the racist side of the spectrum. At church gatherings I've heard off-hand comments about how a woman can't make tough decisions because of their soft sensibilities, and she's black to boot! As if that's basically enough to disqualify, although it's always given with some excuse, because the people saying it realize they don't have a good reason to feel that way. But it's the indoctrination for much of the country, especially older white individuals. Hence why the Mormons have a really hard time breaking free of that, since the church itself indoctrinated its members against people of color for the better part of a century, and it's still jarring for many in Utah to see black people more regularly now than even just 15 or 20 years ago, let alone actually vote for one. It's sad and pitiful, but it's true.
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It “feels like” she’s losing momentum at the moment. Even should she clearly appear to be the “winner” in the debate, I’m not sure it would make any real difference. Nate Silver has Trump winning the electoral vote easily at the moment, with some complaining he’s using biased info, whatever that means. But, for sure she is going to be really problematic for many men….


“New polls show Vice President Harris faces a major challenge in winning over male voters and is losing men by a bigger margin than she’s winning women in key states such as Pennsylvania, Nevada and North Carolina.

The gender gap between Democrats and Republicans isn’t new, but it’s becoming especially pronounced in the toss-up race for president.

Former President Trump’s problems with female voters are well known. New polls show that Harris has just as big of a problem with male voters in some states.

At the Democratic convention in Chicago last month, Harris and her political team largely downplayed her chance of making history by becoming the first woman elected president, and political experts say male voters in some parts of the country remain leery about putting a woman in the Oval Office.

A senior Senate Democratic aide said sexism and misogyny are still powerful forces in the country’s battleground states.

“Misogyny is a hell of a drug,” the source quipped, who said the same problem reared its head when Hillary Clinton was the Democratic nominee eight years ago.

“It was glossed over when people said everyone hated Hillary Clinton,” the Democrat added”.

Nate Silver has chances of Trump winning electoral vote at 64%. Sometimes I see Harris assume a pose, hands on her heart, looking at her audience as if they were her children, with a loving smile. And, call me sexiest, I don’t mind, I’ll vote for her no problem, lol, but when I see that look, I think, “no, a lot of men want to see toughness in a president, not a motherly look!”. In the excitement and hopefulness generated by the selection of a woman, I was not focused on misogyny. But I think it is going to make it really, really tough to elect Kamala Harris. Feeling the momentum shift, but it’s always been easy for me to be a pessimist anyway….

m.economictimes.com

U.S elections: Has Nate Silver skewed data in favour of Donald Trump, he faces backlash on social media

Some argue that Nate Silver's new election model favors less trustworthy surveys and benefits from his affiliation with a betting organization. The way his model projected Trump's chances has generated debate and encouragement from Trump's supporters.
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Douchebag K said:
i disagree If someone of the ilk of Obama was running against Trump i don't see how they wouldn't comfortably win.
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That's because apparently you dont understand that Americans vote for the party not the candidate.

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Douchebag K said:
it is possible to think both candidates are absolutely pitiful
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So true. But you only seem to bitch about the Democrats selecting Kamala as the candidate while I never see you bitch about the fact that the Republicans selected trump. (Over and over and over)

Which is really ironic considering that the Democrats didn't really have much of an option due to the timing of when Biden dropped out and the Republicans have had chance after chance after chance to get rid of trump but keep choosing him over and over and over again.

So the Republicans have plenty of options election after election after election and they continually choose the worst candidate in history. Crickets about that choice.

The Democrats don't really have a choice and they choose Kamala this one time. You voice your frustrations.

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Kamala Harris Can’t Keep Running Like This

She’s been coasting on good vibes, but the honeymoon is over. Now she needs to lay out how her governing agenda differs from Biden’s—and Tuesday’s debate is the perfect place to do it.
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“This was always going to be a very close election, even after Harris replaced Biden. But the tightening of the polls over the past week point to a failure in Harris’s campaign. She had nearly two months to show voters who she is and what she stands for. Instead, she has played it safe, hoping to maintain the positive vibes and momentum of the summer by deliberately not staking out positions on controversial policies. It’s now clear that that approach is no longer working. As the Times’s Nate Cohn wrote on Sunday, “More than anything, voters say they want to hear more about where she stands on the issues, something her campaign has seemed to struggle to lay out.”
 
Sardines said:
Is like Harris has to be a certain level of good or else Trump gets the vote. Trump doesn't have to be good at all. That's Harris's job.
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Trump is doing what candidates need to do. He's making his policy positions clear. He's doing sit-down interviews with anyone, including hostile interviewers. He's trying to win votes.

Kamala Harris has done one, time-delayed, edited, sit-down interview with her VP beside her for support, and has run from previously stated positions while lying about running from old positions.

Kamala does have to be a certain level of good, and that is as it should be. Since throwing away democracy to be anointed the democrat nominee, her campaign has been one step above having a staffer run out on stage to place down a life sized cardboard cutout of Kamala, putting a cassette recorder on the podium, and playing the tape into the microphone. The people, and even the press, are starting to notice there is no there there. A real candidate should win out over that.
 
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Sardines said:
Is like Harris has to be a certain level of good or else Trump gets the vote. Trump doesn't have to be good at all. That's Harris's job.
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Come on man, trump is out there talking about important policy issues that matter to Americans. Like don't you even have a preference of dying by shark vs dying by electrocution? Kamala doesn't even talk about this important policy issue at all!

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fishonjazz said:
Come on man, trump is out there talking about important policy issues that matter to Americans. Like don't you even have a preference of dying by shark vs dying by electrocution? Kamala doesn't even talk about this important policy issue at all!

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I would choose shark, just for the headlines.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I would choose shark, just for the headlines.
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It's still mind boggling that trump thinks that if a boat has a battery on it and that battery gets wet then you will get electrocuted.
If you go to a lake and look at every boat on the WATER you find a battery on board. These batteries get wet literally all the time. Boats sink with batteries on them and no electrocutions occur.
Hell every car has a battery in it. Does he think cars can't drive in the rain or go through car washes?
He is so dumb. Also, water destroys magnets!

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fishonjazz said:
The Democrats could have the best candidate in the history of the world and they still wouldn't annihilate trump silly.
Trump has an R next to his name


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but all the good republicans like Liz and Dick Cheney and George Bush are now moving over to the left and endorsing Kamala? So what good is that "R" next to his name? Are you really somehow that dumb? Is hypocrisy some major part of dems personal identity?


View: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1832877863478968804



View: https://twitter.com/Jairo_I_Funez/status/1832879422501752835
 
Mongoose said:
but all the good republicans like Liz and Dick Cheney and George Bush are now moving over to the left and endorsing Kamala?
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Dick Cheney and his daughter are endorsing Harris, but George Bush is not. Dubya's spokespeople have made clear George has retired from political life and has no interest in making endorsements or even telling people who he intends to vote for. I don't doubt he's not a fan of Trump, but if the rumors are to be believed then Dubya loathes Dick Cheney. Cheney's endorsement all by itself might be enough to get George to vote for Trump.
 
fishonjazz said:
It's still mind boggling that trump thinks that if a boat has a battery on it and that battery gets wet then you will get electrocuted.
If you go to a lake and look at every boat on the WATER you find a battery on board. These batteries get wet literally all the time. Boats sink with batteries on them and no electrocutions occur.
Hell every car has a battery in it. Does he think cars can't drive in the rain or go through car washes?
He is so dumb. Also, water destroys magnets!

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Yep that's how electricity works. It's like a grenade, when it explodes it sends shrapnel flying in all directions. Just like when you put a battery in water it shoots electrons everywhere and if one hits you it electrocutes you.

Just basic electronics really.
 
Sardines said:
Yep that's how electricity works. It's like a grenade, when it explodes it sends shrapnel flying in all directions. Just like when you put a battery in water it shoots electrons everywhere and if one hits you it electrocutes you.

Just basic electronics really.
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Yep. It's the most effective way to catch sardines.
 
LogGrad98 said:
The only way it would be better is he is male. Many R voters won't be caught dead voting for a black person. Add in female with it and frankly the Democrats fielded about the worst candidate they could find besides dementia Joe. So in that regard, Obama would be better, but the heavily racist bulk of the R voters would ensure his victory wouldn't be that close.

Honestly if the Democrat ticket were reversed and Walz was the P and Harris the VP they'd win much more comfortably. Many R swing voters would be a more more comfortable voting for a white male. I look at my parents as an example. They get how devastating a trump presidency would be for the country, but they are trying to talk themselves out of voting for Harris. They are in Utah, so Trump will win anyway, they say. Or I don't like either of them, maybe I just won't vote. When I ask what they don't like about Trump they have a litany of relevant things to say. When I ask them what they dislike about Harris it's a bunch of hemming a hawing, because when they think about it, her gender and race still bother them. They just don't want to face that. But they are almost 90. For them racism was just ingrained, although I've always considered them to be pretty fair and balanced, especially as compared to many in their generation. But that generational attitude is damn tough to break through. I'll get them to vote, my mom is kind of excited to vote for the first female president. But you can tell it still irks them a little bit. Tough pill to swallow when they spent 30+ years of their lives in segregation and the constant racist culture of the era, especially given it was their formative years. There are plenty like them, only swinging harder to the racist side of the spectrum. At church gatherings I've heard off-hand comments about how a woman can't make tough decisions because of their soft sensibilities, and she's black to boot! As if that's basically enough to disqualify, although it's always given with some excuse, because the people saying it realize they don't have a good reason to feel that way. But it's the indoctrination for much of the country, especially older white individuals. Hence why the Mormons have a really hard time breaking free of that, since the church itself indoctrinated its members against people of color for the better part of a century, and it's still jarring for many in Utah to see black people more regularly now than even just 15 or 20 years ago, let alone actually vote for one. It's sad and pitiful, but it's true.
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I can’t speak to the race component not living there. But I think in a lot of cultures there’s a good portion of the population that would ultimately just never vote for a woman Even seemingly reasonable people including women
 
Mongoose said:
but all the good republicans like Liz and Dick Cheney and George Bush are now moving over to the left and endorsing Kamala? So what good is that "R" next to his name? Are you really somehow that dumb? Is hypocrisy some major part of dems personal identity?


View: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1832877863478968804



View: https://twitter.com/Jairo_I_Funez/status/1832879422501752835
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Oh you are dumb enough to think I meant literally every single person will vote that way rather than in general. I'm not surprised that you are that dumb.

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fishonjazz said:
So true. But you only seem to bitch about the Democrats selecting Kamala as the candidate while I never see you bitch about the fact that the Republicans selected trump. (Over and over and over)

Which is really ironic considering that the Democrats didn't really have much of an option due to the timing of when Biden dropped out and the Republicans have had chance after chance after chance to get rid of trump but keep choosing him over and over and over again.

So the Republicans have plenty of options election after election after election and they continually choose the worst candidate in history. Crickets about that choice.

The Democrats don't really have a choice and they choose Kamala this one time. You voice your frustrations.

Pattern continues.

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I do so enjoy your continually trying to put words into my mouth

For those who asked in other threads why people with different views don’t contribute more this is why. I’ve repeatedly said Trump is an idiot and that I wouldn’t vote for either side: I don’t bother saying much about him because what is there to say that hasn’t been said already. I’ve criticised Biden continuously the last few years because he’s you know, the actual President. And the same with Harris. She’s the one in power. And she’s a terrible candidate. I’ve continuously said if there was a decent candidate that would be the best thing because they’d have a much better chance to beat Trump. And all you continuously do is be derisive and tell me what I really think.

So congratulations Fish, i hope you’re happy with your efforts. I will not ever reply to you in this section again.

I think you need to have a bit of self reflection and think about how much time you waste obsessing about Trump here. Unfortunately because the Dems have run such garbage candidates I think he’s going to be President again.
 
Rubashov said:
No not all familiar. He may have been around a while but small government didn't become an obsession of 'conservatives' until the oil shock and stagflation of the late 70s
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Not picking on you but you should read more 20th century us history. Fiscal conservatism has roots back to the 1930s. Related, economic liberalism goes back to Adam Smith.
 
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