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2 Days Till Training Camp
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There’s not really any traditional position battles going on…but for me what I’m most curious to see is what news comes out about Cody. I could legitimately see him starting or spending most of the year in the GLeague. I honestly thought Key might spend a decent amount of time in the GLeague until we heard the rave reviews about him in camp.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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I don’t get the rave reviews Williams gets. At best he’s a 3&D wing, and he could be a good one but people act like he’s got a legitimate shot at being a star and that’s not just people on Jazzfanz, but I hear it on YouTube from fans all over the country. The dude can’t dribble he gonna be a star.
Handling the ball and getting downhill at his size are actually among his strengths. I think he'll be a top-5 rookie this season.
I will be fairly shocked if he plays a single game in the G.
To me there are a lot of traditional positional battles.
Does Clarkson or Sexton start?
Does Williams or Hendricks start?
Does Collins or Kessler start?
Does Clarkson or Sexton start?
Does Williams or Hendricks start?
Does Collins or Kessler start?
I think Cody will be the backup at the 3 behind Lauri. He offers a nice combination of shooting, scoring and passing, and his defense will likely put him ahead of Sensabaugh in the rotation.
I think Williams going to be a Day 1 starter tbh. I think he beats out Hendricks. Remember, the rumor coming out is that he would have been a top pick for Utah if they were picking in the top 5 of the draft.
I thought he would be a GLeague guy during the predraft process. His play at Colorado graded out relatively poorly across metrics, and physically he is likely going to struggle. But there’s not much competition here on the Jazz so he landed in a good spot to get minutes right away.
It is much more likely that he’s a day 1 starter IMO.
Most interesting thing about the early TC reports is that will Flip come in looking like he deserves minutes? Lets not forget that he was pretty impressive in the Vegas summer league games.
Him showing up and looking like he belongs in the rotation should give Hardy some headache.
I also wanna hear Johnny Juzang reports. I have an irrational like for the dude and a feeling that he will be better than we all expect next year.
Him showing up and looking like he belongs in the rotation should give Hardy some headache.
I also wanna hear Johnny Juzang reports. I have an irrational like for the dude and a feeling that he will be better than we all expect next year.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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He’s extremely slow with his dribble and it’s very loose. In summer league he lost possession while preforming the simplest of dribbling while loosely being single covered. Did you not watch summer league?
Are you confusing Sensabaugh and Williams?
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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I’m not saying he’s a bust or anything, just he won’t be an allstar unless his defense is otherworldly or something. Hes going to be a very good 3&D imo. He’ll be a good slasher and finisher, but your not going to put the ball in his hands and ask him to win games that way.
He hardly turned it over in SL. What the **** are you talking about?
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Here are some things I am excited to watch going into camp.
I agree the Williams vs Hendricks battle will be the most interesting. Hendricks is a good defender and shooter. Other than that he seems to lack offensive pop. He can also get passive at times. Williams isn't the shooter Hendricks is but has more offensive pop but not the defensive upside. Williams has the higher ceiling but physical needs to develop.
I could see Hendricks starting but Williams finishing the year as a starter.
Juzang is also interesting. If he can play enough defense he should gets minutes. I am afraid he won't get that until Clarkson is gone.
Filipowski will also be a great follow. If he is ready for minutes that will mean a lot to the Jazz and their 5 out scheme.
Last will be Collier. Jazz need a pg so much and he is the best pure PG on the roster. He needs to cut down on TOs but he could be a steal in this draft.
I agree the Williams vs Hendricks battle will be the most interesting. Hendricks is a good defender and shooter. Other than that he seems to lack offensive pop. He can also get passive at times. Williams isn't the shooter Hendricks is but has more offensive pop but not the defensive upside. Williams has the higher ceiling but physical needs to develop.
I could see Hendricks starting but Williams finishing the year as a starter.
Juzang is also interesting. If he can play enough defense he should gets minutes. I am afraid he won't get that until Clarkson is gone.
Filipowski will also be a great follow. If he is ready for minutes that will mean a lot to the Jazz and their 5 out scheme.
Last will be Collier. Jazz need a pg so much and he is the best pure PG on the roster. He needs to cut down on TOs but he could be a steal in this draft.
Hendricks and Williams probably both finish the years as starters.
Either Sexton/Clarkson get traded mid-season, or they get to the last third of the season and all vets are resting and they are starters because of that.
I'm kind of torn on Filipowski. Genuinely impressed by his skill level, but worried that his high summer league performance was mostly as teams were already shutting down their better players.
2 keys on him, I think. Does he learn to survive as a 4 on defense so that you can play him at least 50/50 at PF and C (the latter of which I have very little confidence that he'll be useful defensively). I'm somewhat optimistic that he'll get to being playable as a defensive 4. And can he shoot efficiently? He wasn't quite there in college, so we'll just have to see on that one. I tend to be optimistic over the long run (though probably not this year) on this.
Personally, I think he needs to prove that he has actual NBA big man ability. He’s skilled “for a 7 footer”….but I question if he can deliver on the big man aspects. The appeal for me is having that skillset come from your big and that value really diminishes if you need to play him alongside another big.
He might have to play 4 because we’d be at too large of a deficit size wise if he’s our 5. But he’s playing 4, is his skill level really that much of a plus? At minimum he will have to prove he can shoot it.
What battle are you talking about? They play different positions. Is there Kessler vs Sexton battle too?
If Cody Williams has a positive enough impact, the Jazz might want to start him at the 3, move Lauri to the 4, and bring Hendricks off the bench. (Assume Keyonte and either Clarkson or Sexton are starting in the backcourt.)