Kamala Harris for Pres

[Douchebag K]

Journalist and academic Stan Grant has taken shots at “political elites” in the United States, as well as coverage of the US election, in a speech made at a social cohesion conference in western Sydney.

The former host of ABC’s Q+A told attendees that neither Donald Trump or Kamala Harris were the answer to the “existential crisis of America” and then made reference to Robin Hood:

Stan Grant in 2023. Photograph: Dan Himbrechts/AAP
He said coverage of the election had been “abominable” in that “every lie” and “every hatred” has been “amplified.” He said the media has only been interested in the outrage and star power of the campaigns, and less so the people “holding that broken country together”.

he's a complex character for sure but i think in this instance he's absolutely nailed it

 

[PJF]

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[The Thriller]

This is pure copium. People's lives are ****** despite the media telling them it's going well. Conditions have progressively gotten worse for decades. I think you need to get off of your current media diet.



Economic insecurity driving reactionary sentiment has been a material reality forever. Poor working-class people do make up a huge chunk of Trump voters. I think that's been pretty obvious. IIRC, the number of working-class people moving to the republican party has been trending upward since Obama. I wonder why that is? You and I can say that they're voting against their interests, which is true. I blame the party that is supposedly on their side for allowing the party that doesn't represent their interests at all to win them over. That's crazy.

I’m going off evidence. This is literally my job, history and political science has been my career for almost twenty years and what you’re regurgitating are 2016 talking pts that have been refuted For years now. Yes yes, blaming globalism, immigrants, poverty, etc for American democracy de-stabilizing and voting for Trump just doesn’t have any evidence to support it. Authoritarian personality disorder and racism do. If you look at the evidence people who vote for Trump are overwhelmingly motivated by race and gender. And those are disproportionately being found among the (bored) non-college educated upper (white) middle class.

Again, you haven’t refuted my central pt:

“If the poverty aka the poor sweet innocent “forgotten man” who’s living better than any prior generation is really so angry with his lot in life, why aren’t we seeing worker revolutions across the world?” Instead, these right wing authoritarian movements are sprouting among the much better off who share cultural and racial grievances for a past that never existed. You see this in Brexit, Le pene’s France, Orban’s Hungary, Justice party in Poland, and Italy. It’s not the ****ing economics, it’s the racism. It’s the culture. It’s the social hierarchy folks who are angry that in the 21st century, their privilege is now being shared amongst those they deem to be lower class than they.

I suggest you get off your current media diet and read something scholarly for a change. You know, involving political scientists instead of social media personalities? Something that like actually includes exit polls?

 

[The Thriller]

I can and I do. Vehemently so.

Progressive policies surveying well when uncoupled from the party allegedly espousing them is a messaging disaster. They cozy up to Republicans and war criminals just because they're anti-trump rather than put up the necessary fight required to get people enthusiastic about their vision for America. People like Dick Cheney should be considered antithetical to that vision, because they are. Just as a microcosm, The only thing Harris voters here are enthusiastic about on this board is enthusiasm for voting against Trump.

The fact that it's close at all on economics when DJT is proposing wild **** like mass tariffs and zero income tax is an indictment on the Harris campaign. I refuse to give flowers out when they end up losing to the worst candidate twice in three elections. If they manage to scrape by, is that a win? I don't think so. It's an embarrassment.

Alrighty then. lol you sound like one of those too online Bernie bros who wishcast a progressive utopia in a Harris loss and a Trump win. Except, progressive utopias have never displaced a fascist dictatorship.

 

[LogGrad98]

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[PJF]

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[The Thriller]

This was at Harris’s rally today in DC. Anyone else have footage? How many police officers were killed? How many security officers were beaten with American flags and bear spray? How many pipe bombs were left by Republican offices? was there any **** smeared on the walls? Did anyone try and kill mitt Romney? Where’s the democratic moose shaman or whatever that guy was?


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[Mongoose]

If he can easily demonize immigrants as garbage, why wouldn’t he do the same to women, blacks, Mormons, gays, and anyone he disagrees with? There was a time when Americans would’ve run a candidate like this out on a rail. But sadly, the right hates America too much. And Russia is happy to give them a helping hand in dividing and weakening the country.

This didn’t age well. That didn’t take long at all. Are you at all tired of the hypocrite party yet? Do you still not see it? Are you even mad at them selfishly for how stupid they make you look?


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[fishonjazz]

This didn’t age well. That didn’t take long at all. Are you at all tired of the hypocrite party yet? Do you still not see it? Are you even mad at them selfishly for how stupid they make you look?


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Why no audio or video?
IF he said that then I think it's wrong of Biden. He shouldn't say horrible things like that. I will call him out. Saying things like that is a trump move. Not calling out when trump says a thing like that is a mongoose move.

I did not vote for Biden in this election fwiw.

Btw, this is just another example of trump bringing out the worst in people. Its the same effect he is having on the entire country. He brings out the worst in all of us. None of us are immune to the infection that is trump.

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[Al-O-Meter]

Why no audio or video?

There is both audio and video. Biden said it at a press conference. A roast comedian made a joke about Puerto Rico being strewn with litter, and Biden's response several days later was to say the only garbage he saw was Trump's supporters. Biden's staff put out a statement within hours "clarifying" the remarks in an effort to walk them back, and Kamala's staff has refused to comment in any way on the remarks.

Harris and Trump target Wisconsin with four days to go

Both candidates will hold Milwaukee rallies in Wisconsin push, with VP picks heading to fellow swing state Michigan.

www.bbc.com

 

[The Thriller]

Anyone else remember the good ol days when health insurance companies could deny you coverage over pre-existing conditions?

Who wants to see millions lose their health care? Vote for Trump!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/30/mike-johnson-trump-aca-obamacare/

Yay! Consumers must spend more to offset dump’s tariffs. Always looking out for the working class slob!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/30/companies-tariffs-trump-prices/

Even Elon predicts a recession if Trump wins. Tax cuts and having a useful idiot in the White House is more important than your economic well being.

Elon Musk Sees Trump’s Economic Plans Causing ‘Temporary Hardship’

Mr. Musk agreed with an X post saying there would be an “initial severe overreaction in the economy” before returning to sustainable growth if Mr. Trump is elected and follows through on his plans.

www.nytimes.com

 

[fishonjazz]

There is both audio and video. Biden said it at a press conference. A roast comedian made a joke about Puerto Rico being strewn with litter, and Biden's response several days later was to say the only garbage he saw was Trump's supporters. Biden's staff put out a statement within hours "clarifying" the remarks in an effort to walk them back, and Kamala's staff has refused to comment in any way on the remarks.

Harris and Trump target Wisconsin with four days to go

Both candidates will hold Milwaukee rallies in Wisconsin push, with VP picks heading to fellow swing state Michigan.

www.bbc.com

Yep, and you see me call him out for it. Dont ever see you call trump out for the things he says and does though. Again, trump brings out the worst in all of us. First he brings out a comedian at his rally who will say things like that. Which leads to biden saying something horrible in response. Its the trump effect. Its happening all over the country. trump is a disease. An infection. trumpers even came up with a name for the disease. Only cure is to get rid of trump. trump is the common denominator. If trump weren't running for president then no one would be calling large groups of people garbage.

 

[Mongoose]

Classy response to all the hate and stupidity.


View: https://x.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1851481562744840576?s=46&t=PfGBft52CF1a98VsjZzilw

 

[fishonjazz]

trump just calls over half of america "the enemy within"
Nothing wrong with that I guess.

Btw if trump doesn't like being compared to hitler or called hitler then its weird that he chose JD Vance for his VP who called trump hilter lol. trump must have taken being called hitler as a compliment.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Yep, and you see me call him out for it. Dont ever see you call trump out for the things he says and does though.

I do call Trump out quite a bit. I can't comment on why you don't ever see it. This was from a comment in a conversation between you and me literally yesterday:

Yes [Trump] did, and it was bad. Since then Congress has passed legislation to stop what he was doing and the Supreme Court made a decision that totally invalidated the crackpot legal theory behind it.

As for the video of the comments:

 

[Al-O-Meter]

trump just calls over half of america "the enemy within"
Nothing wrong with that I guess.

I have provided a video of Biden explicitly calling Trump supporters "garbage". In return, please provide a video of Trump explicitly calling over half of America "the enemy within"

 

[Mongoose]

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[fishonjazz]

I do call Trump out quite a bit. I can't comment on why you don't ever see it. This was from a comment in a conversation between you and me literally yesterday:



As for the video of the comments:

Lol at you thinking that is a call out.

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[fishonjazz]

I have provided a video of Biden explicitly calling Trump supporters "garbage". In return, please provide a video of Trump explicitly calling over half of America "the enemy within"

From what I have read. He didn't use the word "all" when he called trump supporters garbage. He was just talking about a few of them that are garbage. He was just joking around. It was taken out of context. It was just locker room talk.

This is how it's supposed to be done right? I have learned this type of response from trump supporters.

It's funny because trump stays low. He constantly says and does horrible things. His supporters excuse it all away. His political opponents eventually get down in the mud with him and suddenly they act horrified at the mud slinging.

Again, trump is the common denominator. Remove trump and you removed people calling other people garbage.

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[fishonjazz]

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Don't start no **** won't be no ****.

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