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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

Wolf is gonna rise.
My totally uninformed opinion is he is easily the most likely player that wildly outperforms his draft position, goes supernova, everyone in hindsight can’t believe they didn’t see it. I’m already of the position that if he’s there with the Wolves pick that I’d just take him and run.

I also have 0 players to compare him to. Maybe that 7 foot PG from the USSR that played for BYU 50 years ago and passed on playing in the NBA.
 
Listened to a podcast on draft philosophy recently (not going to recommend, because it was way too meandering), but I though the guest's larger points were interesting:

- Too often we judge (esp. potential high) draft picks on how much talent we think they have as a #1 option. Yet for the majority, these skills are not going to really affect winning much, even if they end up as a #1 option (often on sub-par teams). Very, very few players are of the caliber to affect winning as a #1. Argued that Demar Derozan is likely better at scoring than most draftees we're trying to shoehorn in as a #1, yet his effect on winning is relatively small. Seemed to apply this even to Harper this year. He'd rather have players that are just good and well rounded than someone who can get their own (unless the latter is also a clear superstar).

- Made an argument that psychology has to be important in (professional) player observation. (Obviously this is something that we have novices have virtually no access to.)

- Seemed to be arguing that the wave of the future is getting as many players with no real weaknesses in their games, especially those with superior BBIQs.

- Made a strong argument that these types of no/few-weakness, strong BBIQ, quick processing players are really the types that have staying power and have real trade value (if an opportunity ever comes around to swap for the few generational types, for example). Gave example of Josh Hart (and someone else I'm forgetting now, maybe Marcus Smart?).

- Generally argued that processing speed/ability is too underrated when applied to draft prospects.

If you look at the Celtics, they have multiple players who can make decisions with the ball, shoot well enough to space the floor, and also be plus-defenders. Jrue Holiday and Derrick White aren't super explosive or high scorers themselves, but they are perfect complements to the Celtics' wing scorers. I think the Jazz want to install a similar system, and Jakucionis should be the type of player who could work in a system like that.

It's a reason why the Jazz would unload a player like Ochai Agbaji, since he wasn't much of a ball handler or decision-maker, and his shooting was iffy to boot.
 
How about comparing him to someone like Troy Murphy. Kevin Love was an elite rebounder and scorer from the mid-post and in. At his absolute peak, Kevin Love might have been a top-5 MVP candidate.

Edit: I looked it up, and Kevin Love was #6 in MVP voting in 2012 when he averaged 26/13/2.
Because i was comparing playing style. Dip and drives, shooting the 3, playing d, there weren't any highlights about rebounding. I said love was wide. The helps with rebounding but the passing was similar also.
 
If you look at the Celtics, they have multiple players who can make decisions with the ball, shoot well enough to space the floor, and also be plus-defenders. Jrue Holiday and Derrick White aren't super explosive or high scorers themselves, but they are perfect complements to the Celtics' wing scorers. I think the Jazz want to install a similar system, and Jakucionis should be the type of player who could work in a system like that.

It's a reason why the Jazz would unload a player like Ochai Agbaji, since he wasn't much of a ball handler or decision-maker, and his shooting was iffy to boot.
Yeah, what the Celtics have accomplished and the problems they cause for other teams were central to this guy's argument.
 
Drake Powell fits this mold somewhat. Good defender with some on-ball creation and adequate shooting percentages.
he disappears in so many games. just does nothing. not much on-ball creation at all. if the game or his teammates don't create opportunities, he just really doesn't do anything. he's just out there. there is a reason he only averages 7 ppg.

cody williams last couple months of his college season ptsd. i do think powell has potential (and definitely looks the part), but man, do something out there.
 
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he disappears in so many games. just does nothing. not much on-ball creation at all. if the game or his teammates don't create opportunities, he just really doesn't do anything. he's just out there. there is a reason he only averages 7 ppg.

cody williams last couple months of his college season ptsd. i do think powell has potential (and definitely looks the part), but man, do something out there.
Okoro 2.0
 
This is Trey Murphy in his fourth year. Anyone think Ace Bailey should be able to do these things in 4 years? Seems reasonable to me. Trey was considered a limited handler and driver coming into the league.


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Ace can do some of these things right now. He's not necessarily my type of prospect, but he is legitimately good at creating his own shot in the midrange and making them at a high clip. I also think Trey Murphy is a decent comparison (Ace is going to be heavier but less mobile IMO). The part that I'm less sure about is his general 3 point shooting. Trey Murphy came into the league as a good shooter, that's what he was drafted for. Trey would still be a very good player if he didn't develop the shot creation stuff, I don't think the same could be said for Ace. He's further ahead in the shot making aspects, but his game outside of that needs work. Ace's shooting is still somewhat suspect (though it has really picked up lately).
 
I've watched some of Powell's better games and worse games. I really like him and think he has real potential as a 3 and D guy in the league. I think it is a year early to draft him though, but maybe it's worth the risk at the end of the first round. I don't know if a guy like that would develop better at college or in the G League.
 
I've watched some of Powell's better games and worse games. I really like him and think he has real potential as a 3 and D guy in the league. I think it is a year early to draft him though, but maybe it's worth the risk at the end of the first round. I don't know if a guy like that would develop better at college or in the G League.
I wouldnt mind him in the mid teens with the Wolves pick. He is good. Jazz need defensive minded wings with talent.
 
I thought Demin looked a little better last night. It was at home and against a lesser team than they have played yesterday and his numbers were still not very good but he did have one amazing stretch in the game at least. There were more flashes last night. Encouraging
 
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