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2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

Kings radio host for ESPN said the front office told Fox they had a deal for John Collins or Cam Johnson on the table. Both deals went cold and apparently was the last straw for Fox.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Kings radio host for ESPN said the front office told Fox they had a deal for John Collins or Cam Johnson on the table. Both deals went cold and apparently was the last straw for Fox.
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Yeah but if Fox doesn't give you an assurance that he’ll re-sign and you’re giving up future picks, would you do the deal?
 
Does a trade involving Fox and Lavine work? It seems like Lavine might be Sacramento's best chance at keeping in the playoff race.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Does a trade involving Fox and Lavine work? It seems like Lavine might be Sacramento's best chance at keeping in the playoff race.
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Oh man. Reuniting Derozan and Lavine would be peak Kangz. If it happens this has to be a simulation.
 
Random thoughts on Fox
-I truly believe Fox is only marginally better than Sexton. I would much rather trade a bad pick for him than trade 3+ solid picks for Fox.
-Kings want John Collins
-San Antonio owns swap right on Sacramento’s 2031 pick.
-Sacramento owes their ‘25 pick top-12 protected to the Hawks
-‘25 Hawks, ‘25 Chicago, ‘25 Charlotte (fake), and returning the swap is basically three 1sts kind of value which I think is about right. Problem is Kings aren’t going to want purely garbage salary, so I guess throw in another first (‘27 Hawks or Spurs?… or maybe Minnesota ‘31???) to break off for the team that sends Sacramento win now players that perfectly fit their needs
-they could maybe loop in the Hawks to trade the Kings pick back to them in exchange for The Hawks getting their pick back from the Spurs.

This is gonna be an interesting trade deadline.
 
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I feel like Sexton should be very valuable to any potential suitors. They should have to pay a ransom.
Dude is ballin. Its a pretty big sample size at this point of him scoring a lot of points and scoring them very efficiently. So consistent.
 
Kessler too. I hope the jazz can really pull off this tank all season and keep all these guys.
Jazz have some really good pieces. I don't want to tear it all the way down if we don't have to.
 
Sexton is very different from Fox. Both are lightening fast pgs but that's where the comp stops.

Sexton a great ISO bucket getter who plays far too much 1 v 5 ball and is a decent shooter. Fox is a very mature playmaker with elite speed and a better shot.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Sexton is very different from Fox. Both are lightening fast pgs but that's where the comp stops.

Sexton a great ISO bucket getter who plays far too much 1 v 5 ball and is a decent shooter. Fox is a very mature playmaker with elite speed and a better shot.
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Fox’s assist numbers are pretty poor for the usage so I think there’s something to be desired there. He’s also a worse three point shooter than Sexton with a lower TS% (which I think is more an indicator that Sexton could be scoring more on lower efficiency; Sexton is crazy efficient for a guard).
 
People out here talking like Sexton is pretty much the same player as Fox. What the hell is happening?!??

Sexton has always been overrated by Jazz fans, but this... this is true insanity.

Collin still doesn't have anything resembling a market while Fox being on the block is front page news on ESPN.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
People out here talking like Sexton is pretty much the same player as Fox. What the hell is happening?!??

Sexton has always been overrated by Jazz fans, but this... this is true insanity.

Collin still doesn't have anything resembling a market while Fox being on the block is front page news on ESPN.
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You're right. He's not the same. He's actually better when you factor in value of contracts.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Fox’s assist numbers are pretty poor for the usage so I think there’s something to be desired there. He’s also a worse three point shooter than Sexton with a lower TS% (which I think is more an indicator that Sexton could be scoring more on lower efficiency; Sexton is crazy efficient for a guard).
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They also don't need playmaking that badly. They Sabonis, one of the best non-guard playmakers in the NBA, Monk who has really improved as a playmaker, and DeRozan. Sextons level of passing ability is pretty ideal for their current roster. They need a reliable shooter to space and attack space, which Sexton can do.

Sexton/Collins would be really great for them. I think that deal is probably a no brainer for the Kings. Overall the realism of the deal factors down to which picks the Spurs are giving up and how much Utah/Kings are fighting over the "premium" picks in the deal.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sextons level of passing ability is pretty ideal for their current roster. They need a reliable shooter to space and attack space, which Sexton can do.
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Teams know Sexton cannot be trusted to play under control at critical moments. When you're tanking, that's great... when you're trying to win, less so.

Collin is also too expensive a vet to acquire just for tank commander duties – teams understandably want to lose by playing their own young guys, even if Sexton offers entertainment value.

On contending teams, he only makes sense in a short-leash 8th man gunner role, but his nonexistent defensive impact means that he's, again, too expensive.

I don't see him getting moved unless he's part of some pu-pu platter of meh pieces.
 
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