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Sardines said:
Thing is, I'm open to arguments in favor of closing down the DOE, but none have been made. All this stuff is happening and no discussion is involved. What are the pros and cons of shutting down the DOE, because their obviously has to be both, pros and cons.

Can we have a discussion? Can a thoughtful reason be presented?
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Ron DeSantis, the head of the state rated as having the best education system in the nation, published exactly the think-piece you are asking for.

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enchilada_style said:
Great. Run it through congress.
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I don't disagree. If they are actually going to shut it down, then Congress should be holding the axe. That very well may be the plan.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump set to sign executive order shuttering the Education Department

Closing the department requires an act of Congress, but Trump could make it nearly impossible for remaining employees to carry out their work, much like at USAID.
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Trump has suggested that he could garner enough congressional support to formally close the department, characterizing teachers unions as more of a threat to the plan than lawmakers.

“I think I’d work with Congress,” Trump said last month in the Oval Office.
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The leaks about the Executive Order set to be signed is about shifting the handling of Federal student loans and other services from the Department of Education over to other departments so the service on those goes uninterrupted.
 
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Mongoose said:
I didn’t realize that all the bluanon political folks here on jazzfanz were a bunch of sorority girls. I did not expect that…
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As of the last election, the Democrat party became the party of Karen. The working class and Hispanic voters are now solidly in the Republican base. Black voters, especially Black-male voters, are shifting to the Republicans. The Democrats have unmarried college-educated White women on anti-depressants and simp male feminists. They are choosing the 20 side of every 80/20 issue in American politics. It is frankly stunning they still have as much influence as they do. If they keep doubling down on their overtly racist identity politics and transgender idiocy, they are going to keep sliding toward having only 20% of the voice in American government.

The funniest part is watching the few sane ones try to change course only to see newcomers like Jasmine Crockett mash the accelerator pedal as the party races toward the cliff.

Go Democrats! Go!
 
The American president is a POS.

www.theatlantic.com

Trump’s Appetite for Revenge Is Insatiable

The president is making good on his campaign promise.
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No one can say they didn’t know.

During his first official campaign rally for the 2024 Republican nomination, held in Waco, Texas, Donald Trump vowed retribution against those he perceives as his enemies.

“I am your warrior,” he said to his supporters. “I am your justice. For those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution.”

Sixty days into Trump’s second term, we have begun to see what that looks like.

The president fired the archivist of the United States because he was enraged at the National Archives for notifying the Justice Department of his alleged mishandling of classified documents after he left office following his first term. (The archivist he fired hadn’t even been working for the agency at the time, but that didn’t matter.) He also fired two Democratic members of the Federal Trade Commission, a traditionally independent regulatory agency, in violation of Supreme Court precedent and quite likely the language of the statute that created it. (Both members plan to sue to reverse the firings.)


Trump stripped security details from people he had appointed to high office in his first administration and subsequently fell out with, including General Mark Milley, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, former National Security Adviser John Bolton, the former diplomat Brian Hook, and the infectious-disease expert Anthony Fauci. The National Institutes of Health, where Fauci worked for 45 years, is being gutted by the Trump administration. The environment there has become “suffocatingly toxic,” as my colleague Katherine J. Wu reported.

Trump has sued networks and newspapers for millions of dollars. His Federal Communications Commission is investigating several outlets. And he has called CNN and MSNBC “corrupt” and “illegal”—not because they have broken any laws, but simply because they have been critical of him.

Trump’s FBI director, Kash Patel, told the MAGA podcaster Steve Bannon in a 2023 interview that “we’re going to come after the people in the media who lied about American citizens, who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections—we’re going to come after you.”

Trump has also come after the legal profession, expanding his attacks on private law firms and threatening the ability of lawyers to do their job and private citizens to obtain legal counsel. U.S. Marshals have warned federal judges of unusually high threat levels as Elon Musk and other Trump-administration allies “ramp up efforts to discredit judges,” according to a Reuters report. On his social-media site, Musk has attacked judges in more than 30 posts since the end of January, calling them “corrupt,” “radical,” and “evil,” and deriding the “TYRANNY of the JUDICIARY.”

Earlier this week, Trump targeted a federal judge, James E. Boasberg, who ordered a pause in deportations being carried out under an obscure wartime law, the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. Trump, who ignored that court order, called the judge a “Radical Left Lunatic” and demanded his impeachment. (Chief Justice John Roberts responded to the president’s attack with a rare public rebuke.) Trump and his supporters are clearly looking for a showdown with the judicial branch, which could precipitate a constitutional crisis.​


But that’s hardly where the efforts at intimidation end. Trump’s antipathy for Ukraine and its president, Volodymyr Zelensky, was on vivid display a few weeks ago, when the president berated Zelensky in a televised Oval Office meeting. Trump’s hostility toward the Ukrainian president, whom he referred to as a “dictator,” is explained in part by his long-standing affinity for totalitarian leaders such as Vladimir Putin, who invaded Ukraine three years ago. But it almost surely also has to do with Trump’s embrace of a conspiracy theory that Ukraine intervened in the 2016 presidential election in an effort to defeat him. (In fact it was Russia, not Ukraine, that interfered in the election, and on behalf of Trump.)

Last Friday, in the Great Hall of the Justice Department, the president described his adversaries as “scum,” “savages,” and “Marxists,” as well as “deranged,” “thugs,” “violent vicious lawyers,” and “a corrupt group of hacks and radicals within the ranks of the American government.”

No one has any doubt what this means: The department is under Trump’s personal control. As if to underscore the point, Attorney General Pam Bondi, who called Trump “the greatest president in the history of our country,” said she works “at the directive of Donald Trump.” The Justice Department is Trump’s weapon for revenge. And his appetite for vengeance is insatiable.
 
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Sardines said:
Thing is, I'm open to arguments in favor of closing down the DOE, but none have been made. All this stuff is happening and no discussion is involved. What are the pros and cons of shutting down the DOE, because their obviously has to be both, pros and cons.

Can we have a discussion? Can a thoughtful reason be presented?
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Because the programs will still need to be operated (loans, etc.) I doubt there will be a lot in savings other than some admin costs, but that could still be 5% or more. I have no issue closing departments if they can still be run properly through other departments.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
As of the last election, the Democrat party became the party of Karen.
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That party, the Democrats, that’s the party defending the American Constitution. Your own party, are cowards, terrified of a man who wishes to assume as much power over all his countrymen as possible. I’m no Karen, and neither are the Democrats. You, sir, are an enemy of our constitution, and an enemy of every good thing your nation ever stood for. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself, as should some of your fellow clueless MAGA posters. None of us who recognize, in the clear light of day, who Trump is, and what he represents would ever expect you to abandon your spineless opinions, none of us expect you to ever stop hating America’s ideals. Those ideals have been too naive at times, somewhat naive regarding the darker angels of our own human nature, but at least those you refer to as Karens have not sunk to your level of selling their souls to the devil, and spending his days pissing on those ideals….
 
TheGoldStandard said:
Because the programs will still need to be operated (loans, etc.) I doubt there will be a lot in savings other than some admin costs, but that could still be 5% or more. I have no issue closing departments if they can still be run properly through other departments.
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Serious policy makers would have discussions about specifics and how the transition of responsibilities would happen.

What we have is a chaotic mess of **** happening with little to no notice and everyone scrambling to figure out how to deal with it.
 
Sardines said:
Serious policy makers would have discussions about specifics and how the transition of responsibilities would happen.

What we have is a chaotic mess of **** happening with little to no notice and everyone scrambling to figure out how to deal with it.
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Agreed. The first step would be an analysis of actual savings and where the mandatory programs would be sent to and who would oversee them. All I have heard is pie in the sky.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
As of the last election, the Democrat party became the party of Karen. The working class and Hispanic voters are now solidly in the Republican base. Black voters, especially Black-male voters, are shifting to the Republicans. The Democrats have unmarried college-educated White women on anti-depressants and simp male feminists. They are choosing the 20 side of every 80/20 issue in American politics. It is frankly stunning they still have as much influence as they do. If they keep doubling down on their overtly racist identity politics and transgender idiocy, they are going to keep sliding toward having only 20% of the voice in American government.

The funniest part is watching the few sane ones try to change course only to see newcomers like Jasmine Crockett mash the accelerator pedal as the party races toward the cliff.

Go Democrats! Go!
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What percentage of the population wants a recession? You’re way too confident.
 
Along with being concerned about transgenic mice and being against people transitioning to a new phase in life (adulthood, different job, etc), trump is now firing anyone who is left handed.... or as trump calls them "lefties" or "leftists"

Just kidding. Would anyone actually be surprised if that were true though?
 
fishonjazz said:
Along with being concerned about transgenic mice and being against people transitioning to a new phase in life (adulthood, different job, etc), trump is now firing anyone who is left handed.... or as trump calls them "lefties" or "leftists"

Just kidding. Would anyone actually be surprised if that were true though?
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It would not surprise me in the least. And I am left-handed, therefore I must be a leftist. Yikes!!!
 
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