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Jazz @ Kings 3/22/12 8PM MT Game Thread

The Thriller said:
And yet, you felt the need to provide the Minny example.

Sounds to me like YOU believe that OKC has little to do with us because it blew up your example.

The Jazz need more talent, especially at the wing positions. We were locked down by Sacramento in the 4th. If you really feel like playoff teams won't do that to us, then I have real estate in Florida to sell you.

We need more talent and this draft is deep. Nothing is guaranteed, as you said. But so are the playoffs. Using your analogy, Favors and Burks could get injured in the playoffs. What happens if their injuries prevent them from playing into next year. Losing in the first round while losing young players to severe injuries is a negative in my book.

So nothing is guaranteed.

But I think many Jazz fans would rather have us play to win right now, try and improve, develop the young players, and still be in the lottery rather than be the Thunder or Mavs' punching bag.

I for one would rather have us gamble in the lotto than knowing that the season will be over in 4-5 games once the playoffs begin.
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Well said and true. The Pollyanna's here don't seem to like because their Jazz are just he bestest bestest bestest ever!
 
The Thriller said:
Yeah dude! Hayward's the best! Anyone that doesn't think so sucks! Yeaah!
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Where did I say that he is the best? Nice try though.




In case you missed it, the purpose of my post is to remind people how terrible of a poster you really are. Congrats on labeling Hayward as a bust, and eating crow like a sore loser merely days afterwards
 
dalamon said:
Where did I say that he is the best? Nice try though.




In case you missed it, the purpose of my post is to remind people how terrible of a poster you really are. Congrats on labeling Hayward as a bust, and eating crow like a sore loser merely days afterwards
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Hayward has a lot to prove. 10 points and 3 rebounds and playing about as consistently as CJ is not good enough for a top 10 pick. But we're winning right now so all that doesn't matter.

All you've proven is you can piggy back off someone else's post while taking it out of context.

Sooooo good for you dawg! Here's a cookie
 
gregbroncs said:
To get those steals he is completely leaving his man open. It's the Ronnie Brewer theory of defense. Just run around trying to steal the ball and forget about anything else on defense.

Steals is one of the worst stats to rate defense. Because to get them a lot of the time you are not defending your own man. It's easier to get steals from a guy your not supposed to be defending or by leaving your own man to get into passing lanes.
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Paul gets a ton of his steals right from the guy he is guarding. He isn't playing passing lanes on every play like Brewer did. Do you even watch the games?
 
The Thriller said:
Hayward has a lot to prove. 10 points and 3 rebounds and playing about as consistently as CJ is not good enough for a top 10 pick. But we're winning right now so all that doesn't matter.

All you've proven is you can piggy back off someone else's post while taking it out of context.

Sooooo good for you dawg! Here's a cookie
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Not good enough eh?

Look at the 9th overall picks of the last ten years, and give me a list of them that produced much better than Hayward in their second NBA season, statistically. Also, the only player taken after Hayward that one could dispute as a better player, is Paul George, who's shooting at a lower percentage, and barely our scoring him. So taking the 2nd best player available equates to a bust........how?
 
I like the people who act like the draft is going to save this franchise. Like, if we get the 14th pick this year then it's only a matter of time before we beat the HEAT!
 
To complain about this win is "special needs". I actually think we looked really good last night except for the 4th quarter. This is the NBA, teams can get in funks, and other teams can get hot. Heck, the Wizards beat the Thunder early this year, does that mean that OKC should have immediately gone into tank mode to get a coveted #12 pick so that next year they could make their championship run?

I'm of the opinion that we're going to end up with GSW's pick (teams below them are awful and will be tanking just as hard as GSW), so I'm all for a playoff push. Look at Chicago a few years ago, they snuck into the playoffs with a .500 record (7th seed) and lost in the first round to Boston, but they pushed them to 7 games and gained a ton of confidence. And two years ago you had OKC get in as an 8th seed and battled LAL hard for 6 games. Young teams making it into the playoffs can really do wonders (another example was when John & Karl pushed LAL to 7 games in '88).
 
fallenchicken said:
I like the people who act like the draft is going to save this franchise. Like, if we get the 14th pick this year then it's only a matter of time before we beat the HEAT!
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That is already taken care of. We have Millsap.

Jazz are 30-20 all time against the Heat.
 
margodydek said:
To complain about this win is "special needs". I actually think we looked really good last night except for the 4th quarter. This is the NBA, teams can get in funks, and other teams can get hot. Heck, the Wizards beat the Thunder early this year, does that mean that OKC should have immediately gone into tank mode to get a coveted #12 pick so that next year they could make their championship run?

I'm of the opinion that we're going to end up with GSW's pick (teams below them are awful and will be tanking just as hard as GSW), so I'm all for a playoff push. Look at Chicago a few years ago, they snuck into the playoffs with a .500 record (7th seed) and lost in the first round to Boston, but they pushed them to 7 games and gained a ton of confidence. And two years ago you had OKC get in as an 8th seed and battled LAL hard for 6 games. Young teams making it into the playoffs can really do wonders (another example was when John & Karl pushed LAL to 7 games in '88).
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Good points. Utah is still pretty sputtery but they are getting a lot better. I thought it was special they were able to pull out a tough W while Sap had a bad series of plays. The Jazz don't just do it one way. Hayward has been phenomenal in clutch time too. He might be ready for the postseason.
 
margodydek said:
To complain about this win is "special needs". I actually think we looked really good last night except for the 4th quarter. This is the NBA, teams can get in funks, and other teams can get hot. Heck, the Wizards beat the Thunder early this year, does that mean that OKC should have immediately gone into tank mode to get a coveted #12 pick so that next year they could make their championship run?

I'm of the opinion that we're going to end up with GSW's pick (teams below them are awful and will be tanking just as hard as GSW), so I'm all for a playoff push. Look at Chicago a few years ago, they snuck into the playoffs with a .500 record (7th seed) and lost in the first round to Boston, but they pushed them to 7 games and gained a ton of confidence. And two years ago you had OKC get in as an 8th seed and battled LAL hard for 6 games. Young teams making it into the playoffs can really do wonders (another example was when John & Karl pushed LAL to 7 games in '88).
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I agree, but I would still like to see Corbin use situation substitutions, like putting in Favors for Jefferson with 14 seconds left because you need a stop and a rebound. Other than that, take the W and get out of Cow Town.
 
The key we got a W I think is because Alec Burks was on the court in the last minutes.

Don't get me wrong - I just think he is the man who really can win a championship in this ball game.

And this kind of type of players bring special impact in crunch time.

We have good players, but this kid is special.
 
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