Which duo do you prefer to have next season? Favors&Big Al or Favors&Millsap?
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NAOS
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Agree with these. And, I'm glad that public opinion around here seems to have swayed back in favor of Millsap. I cannot foresee a scenario wherein he is traded. This was true before the SF experiment (finally!!!) began, but it is especially true now.
Things just got a lot more flexible. KOC can be much more selective and demanding when it comes to dealing Al (which I still believe he'll do).
spycam1
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I think he SHOULD deal Al, and KOC is probably looking into it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen. Corbin and KOC are probably both hesitant to give Kanter huge minutes just yet...it's not a sentiment I agree with, but that's what my gut is telling me.
spycam1
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Agreed. Although, trading Al could likely mess with our cap situation moving forward, so I can see us just letting his contract expire after next season so that we have the space to be able to give a raise to Favors and Hayward the following year. We'll see.
Hedda Gambler
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Maybe on this board this is true, but I seriously doubt that the average Jazz-fan does not love Al Jefferson.
NAOS
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Right, I also wouldn't be surprised if Al was back for next year because I'm pretty sure KOC's primary objective is to have maximum power and flexibility for 2013. He won't jeopardize that in order to trade Al... he'll circle patiently
I think Kanter will be a legitimate 3rd big next year. He needs more than 10 minutes a game. If we trade Al, we can pick up a 4th big for the spare minutes... perhaps even via draft. (this is a random thought whilst typing... but have we given up on Tomic? What's his status?)
All I'm really saying is that KOC can be a bit pickier when it comes to dealing Al.
I think Kanter will be a legitimate 3rd big next year. He needs more than 10 minutes a game. If we trade Al, we can pick up a 4th big for the spare minutes... perhaps even via draft. (this is a random thought whilst typing... but have we given up on Tomic? What's his status?)
All I'm really saying is that KOC can be a bit pickier when it comes to dealing Al.
gregbroncs
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What leads you to believe Millsap is any more willing to come off of the bench than Al is?
orangello
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I can see this being true but I am worried that next year Corbin will still rely on Jefferson and his offensive ability too much. In fact that is my biggest fear for next year.
I don't need more Jefferson. I need more Favors and more Kanter.
On a side note, I can see Jefferson used to get a future pick or maybe even more up in the draft. That is my hope anyway.
gregbroncs
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For that lineup to work they need better shooting from Hayward and MIllsap or any other wings on the court with them. That lineup only really worked against Houston because Hayward was playing so well.
Stifle Tower
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I agree no one is getting traded. Kanter has not shown he's ready for 30+ mins/per. Favors can get that much PT...when he doesn't get into foul trouble.
Jazz have also been VERY lucky injury-wise with the bigs. Generally, you expect each to miss a few games here and there. And in that case, you need to have 4 good bigs.
Besides, Big Al is not worth his contract (and the same can be said for Devin). What could the Jazz get for a 1-yr rental? He may have value as an expiring contract, but teams aren't likely to make those kinds of deals until the deadline.
Jazz are much better served by using the Memo TPE + a draft pick to get a SF or PG, then trying to trade the expiring contracts of Devin or Al at the deadline. And whichever isn't traded, let that contract simply expire.
Weezur
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Brown Notes
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Jefferson doesn't have very many games left to show that he's a playoff caliber player. I'm really disappointed in him with the last stretch despite playing through injury. His most damning flaw is that he is just too nice. I thought that practicing with a brute like Kanter could help and I thought sniffing the playoffs might awaken the beast. So far, no. Al's not going to be elite like his talent demands until he learns that aggressiveness and plain ol' nasty wins when it counts.
It sucks because in every other way this guy is so easy to root for. Al wants to be a part of the team. Al is tough and plays through injuries. He's coachable and didn't bitch about lower minute averages. He cleaned up his game and is passing way more. The chapel thing was a great story. Al works with the young bigs and has been a great locker room guy. His skill set is the kind that would translate to probably 8 more years of viability. He has so much in his favor as far as Jazz players go which have been traded for.
But unless he breaks out of this pattern of soft he will not be any part of the future. C'mon, Al.
It sucks because in every other way this guy is so easy to root for. Al wants to be a part of the team. Al is tough and plays through injuries. He's coachable and didn't bitch about lower minute averages. He cleaned up his game and is passing way more. The chapel thing was a great story. Al works with the young bigs and has been a great locker room guy. His skill set is the kind that would translate to probably 8 more years of viability. He has so much in his favor as far as Jazz players go which have been traded for.
But unless he breaks out of this pattern of soft he will not be any part of the future. C'mon, Al.
The more the season goes by the more I realize Al doesn't fit here. This team needs to run and Al is a black hole. He gets the ball and takes 7-10 seconds to do something with it. Milsap is a far better passer and help defender. Al Jefferson needs to go to a team who is older and plays a true half- court set. This Jazz team is much better running which isn't Jeffersons game.
Al is too nice (especially in the defensive end) is enough reason for he shouldnt be a part of this team in the future. We need big banging guys, like Kanter and Favors, not another Boozer alike stat maker.
Big Al has a talent that clouds peoples eyes and think that he is really an allstar caliber player, but when he doesnt play it is so obvious we make much better defense. We MUST be a defense first team like SA, Boston, Miami, we can't be phoenix suns with Nash and Amare, we dont have suitable mentality, players and coaching to do that.
in my opinion, we are really lucky if we get gsw pick this year, because it seems to be a great draft and they will be somewhere between 7-9 (just 1-2 step below the threshold that would make them grab the actual pick) . And there seems to be many above average players in the lottery side.
So if we get their pick, and not make playoffs, we can use both picks, and another player (preferably cj, harris or big al) to make a good trade and move to higher position. We dont have anything missing in big man rotation, we just need a good SF, and a good PG. They dont need to be top level players, but they should be very good pieces and team players. I dont think Burks- Hayward is a good duo in SG-SF so Burks can come off the bench, and we can get a stronger and bigger SF (i hope noone says millsap) to play in that position. And we need a brand knight-like PG.
We should accept the bitter truth that this current roster is not even close to a contender, and we have two overpaid players which makes us impossible to keep our young talented players. Thats why , lets better get 1-2 more young players in this draft, and team them up with rather veterans like Millsap, Tinsley.. then we will have a team to watch for next 5 years.