Game 3 Round 1 San Antonio Spurs VS Utah Jazz, Sat. May 5th @ 8pm MT --Official Game Thread--

[billyshelby]

I think the idea is we want Parker to take jump shots. A Parker jump shot is less effective than a fully run Spurs offensive possession.

Of course. But not wide open, totally uncontested jump shots. Hayward gets blocked on screens, and then can't get anywhere close to Parker on his shot. Locke will probably write tomorrow that Hayward did great since Parker missed more than he made. But we got lucky.

If you're going to go under, you accept the shot that happens at the point of attack. You don't go under to let that guy get a clean look 5-8 feet from the pick.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Of course. But not wide open, totally uncontested jump shots. Hayward gets blocked on screens, and then can't get anywhere close to Parker on his shot. Locke will probably write tomorrow that Hayward did great since Parker missed more than he made. But we got lucky.

If you're going to go under, you accept the shot that happens at the point of attack. You don't go under to let that guy get a clean look 5-8 feet from the pick.

Most of the shots weren't wide open, Hayward closed and got a hand in there. They weren't extremely contested, but I think enough to throw Parker off but still inviting enough for him to take them.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

So Jazz fan'ish. I'm sick of mediocre. ***not picking on this particular post or poster.***

The off-season is for improving the team and making changes. We have to play the cards we have now.

 

[billyshelby]

Most of the shots weren't wide open, Hayward closed and got a hand in there. They weren't extremely contested, but I think enough to throw Parker off but still inviting enough for him to take them.

I guess we'll just disagree. He got murdered on picks tonight and he wasn't close to defending shots from either Ginobili or Parker. We got lucky on the missed shots. The bigger problem was those guys getting into the lane and then distributing. We won't get stats on that, but they scored at a high percentage off Hayward getting beat.

I don't lay the blame on Hayward. He can't defend those guys. We just need to stop pretending he can. In the future, when Favors is playing 30 plus, every guy we have including Hayward will look better than he is.

 

[billyshelby]

Out of curiosity: Does anyone really think Hayward is ever going to be a 2nd option offensive guy? He'll obviously never be a 1st. But the dude can't drive. And he's not a great shooter. He's awesome for the little things he does, but he's basically AK lite at this stage of his career.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Out of curiosity: Does anyone really think Hayward is ever going to be a 2nd option offensive guy? He'll obviously never be a 1st. But the dude can't drive. And he's not a great shooter. He's awesome for the little things he does, but he's basically AK lite at this stage of his career.

Can't drive? He isn't the greatest finisher in the world, but the guy can drive.

 

[billyshelby]

Can't drive? He isn't the greatest finisher in the world, but the guy can drive.

What are you talking about? Hayward never drives. Even when he does, I'd bet he finishes at the rim -- make or miss -- less than 10% of the time. His signature move at this point is to get 5 feet from the rim and dish it out for a 20 foot jumpshot.

 

[Weezur]

Out of curiosity: Does anyone really think Hayward is ever going to be a 2nd option offensive guy? He'll obviously never be a 1st. But the dude can't drive. And he's not a great shooter. He's awesome for the little things he does, but he's basically AK lite at this stage of his career.

If Hayward develops any type of a game where he uses his size to his advantage, then yes.
EDIT: And if he develops a floater, yes.

 

[The Thriller]

Gee, what a surprise... Al Jefferson -16... Most of anyone on our team.

 

[Coloradojazzfan]

His signature move at this point is to get 5 feet from the rim and dish it out for a 20 foot jumpshot.

You mean like how that's all the Spurs do to us and are whooping up on us... heaven forbid we play team basketball.

 

[DutchJazzer]

WOW

lazy all's pick and roll defense just boggles me.
and popovich keeps attacking big al on the P&R.

on some sequences big al collapses with our own jazz man(haywrad or harris)
taking not only himself out of the defensive sequence but also another jazz man.
so jazz end op playing 3 on 5 on defense.


WOW. HORRIBLE HORRIBLE defense.
never saw anything worse than that

 

[DutchJazzer]

I meant coaching errors. The players made plenty of mistakes.

no coaching error?
how about taking fat al lazy fat *** out for no defense whatsover while evne kanter had better defense.
it aint no coincidence jazz beat lakers in LA with kanter and favors. because frontcourt needs to play defense.
al does NOT

 

[DutchJazzer]

what a pisser. spurs are really good.

no they are NOT.
whatct them look avarage vs the other teams.
they wont look so super

 

[DutchJazzer]

I'm cool with moving Al Jeffs. I think his value is probably at an all-time high, at least since he was moved for Kevin Garnett. But I don't think Al really lost us the game tonight. The Jazz just didn't get much team offense going except for a few individual efforts from Harris, Jefferson and Favors.

really his lack of defense killed it.

atleast 80% of pick and rolls where against jefferson.
so yeah we lsot because jefferson couldnt stop it

 

[The Norm]

It's hard to believe that some people still think that Al Jefferson still plays permissible defense, or that Tyrone Corbin is even semi-competent.

- Late in the season we lost some games solely because Jefferson got annihilated over and over on the pick and roll. This is a trend that has continued onto this series.

- Tyrone Corbin has completely abandoned the big lineup in order to fit Josh Howard's starters minutes into the game.

What a god damn joke. It's hard to get excited for Favors's future when I know that our dumbass coach won't start him at all next season either.

 

[fufo]

i think raja bell shoud have played in the game for 6-7 minutes. if i were corbin, i would start the 2nd half with bell. defense you know...

 

[udflyer]

None of these things happened and we lost.

It hurts because I expect so much from Hayward. I expect him to make shots and carry us in terms of outside shooting.

He made so much progress on his shot in march and April. I do not get it

 

[Fishsticks]

What are you talking about? Hayward never drives. Even when he does, I'd bet he finishes at the rim -- make or miss -- less than 10% of the time. His signature move at this point is to get 5 feet from the rim and dish it out for a 20 foot jumpshot.

The real question is what in the world are YOU talking about.

 

[underKANTER]

hopefully, next game will be the last game for the following guys:

turtle corbin
fatty jefferson
retarded miles
taco bell
squirell harris

get a starting caliber wing that can score and a guard that can pass.

 

[Fishsticks]

no they are NOT.
whatct them look avarage vs the other teams.
they wont look so super

Come again? The Spurs ARE an amazing team. Weird you would try and say they are not.