It seems like the strength of this draft in the middle rounds is PF/C and SG, the two positions we are set at. Unless they are going to move AJ or Milsap and need someone to fill minutes off the bench at behind Favors, I don't know who they are after. Maybe Q. Miller? Maybe they think one of the PG's are there or they like Tony Wroten? Maybe Jeff Taylor or Terrance Ross?
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It seems like the strength of this draft in the middle rounds is PF/C and SG, the two positions we are set at. Unless they are going to move AJ or Milsap and need someone to fill minutes off the bench at behind Favors, I don't know who they are after. Maybe Q. Miller? Maybe they think one of the PG's are there or they like Tony Wroten? Maybe Jeff Taylor or Terrance Ross?
Weezur
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Let's do a little more detective work.
We also know that if the Jazz don't have a draft pick and they're trading for one, they're going to draft for need, not BPA. Right?
We need SF, PG, and a wing shooter (SG, PG, SF). If we get an SG, he'll have to be a tweener.
We can probably filter out one of either size (for his position) or athleticm, but not both because the Jazz are really high on someone and those 2 are big criteria for a draft pick.
Yeah he may not get off the floor as well as some others but his length helps make up for some of that. I mean athletic as in he is quick and fast for a person his height.
Not sure about that. (but likely true)
If the Jazz feel they've found a 'find' around 15'ish .. then it could very well be bpa, no?
Miller is a versatile player--can shoot, pass, handle, score inside, etc. He could make us a more versatile team.
Would be very surprised. I do think they're looking at a SF .. or something close. Most I can say.
Weezur
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I would think that if you're trading for a draft pick, you're going for someone you really like and need.
Kind of like what Spurs did with Kawhi Leonard.
Our guesses so far are:
Quincy Miller (nbadraft has him at 30, DX has him 18)
Moultrie (He's a PF, though)
Terence Jones (My guess, PKM says plan b or c)
Terence Ross
Austin Rivers
Royce White
Good list, for sure. I may know more tomorrow ..
Ugh. What I'm hearing is that he is what the Jazz are peddling and there are no takers.
So, I think PKM is the expert in this thread, isn't he? I've questions for him and of course everyone who follows the draft class of this year.
Among the guys which the Jazz can get at, who is the,
1) Best shooter,
2) Best slasher,
3) Best distributor,
4) Best defender,
5) Best physically,
6) Best potentially,
Thanks in advance for all answers, I didn't have a chance to follow the draft prospects this year.
Among the guys which the Jazz can get at, who is the,
1) Best shooter,
2) Best slasher,
3) Best distributor,
4) Best defender,
5) Best physically,
6) Best potentially,
Thanks in advance for all answers, I didn't have a chance to follow the draft prospects this year.
Hartsock
Banned
Can he hit the 3? I watched a game or two and I don't think I saw him take a shot outside of 15 feet. Just because he is big and can dribble doesn't mean a whole lot to me. He needs to be able to knock down a jumper or NBA defenders will just lag off of him, he's not quick enough to get by and NBA defender who knows he can't shoot. He's not Rondo or Parker.
No, I meant SF. Someone mentioned Moultrie, iirc, and I replied that I would be surprised because I think we're looking for a SF or at least not a pure PF.
spycam1
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I'd like to cross off post players from our 'potential target list' based on the fact that the Jazz were unwilling to trade Millsap, if what PKM said is true. My thought process is that if we were so high on a post player, why wouldn't we be willing to trade Millsap to acquire him since Favors and Kanter are clearly our future? Just a thought.
This most likely leaves us with:
Austin Rivers (though, PKM said he heard it's not a SG)
Quincy Miller
Terrence Jones
Terrence Ross
Jeff Taylor
Tony Wroten
Royce White
The second piece of information that we have is that we're going for a pick around #15, meaning the Jazz believe their guy will be available after the lottery. In other words, if we were in love with a prospect and were willing to trade for a pick, why would we trade for a pick that is below where that player is expected to be available? We seem very confident that this prospect will fall to 15, which makes me believe it's not Terrence Jones. At least, he seems like the least likely to fall that low of the players I listed, so lets cross him off the list.
And I suppose we can cross Rivers off the list, assuming the Jazz view him as a SG more than a PG.
Next, if I really had to guess, I'd cross Ross and Wroten off the list. They both seem to have low BBIQ's--something I believe KOC values more than most.
This leaves us with:
Quincy Miller
Royce White
Jeff Taylor
Again, we have to keep in mind that we're aiming for a 15ish pick, meaning not only do we expect this player to fall outside of the lottery, but we probably don't think he'll be available much later than that. To me, that suggests Quincy Miller. I'm not sure many mocks have White or Taylor going ahead of Miller; it seems like they could easily fall to 20, IMO, but I have a harder time seeing Miller fall that far. So why would we be trying so hard to get a pick at 15, if the player could be had a little lower than that?
Although, Miller kinda seems like the least "Jazz like player" to me of those three, so who knows. This is all just major speculation by me, but I'd probably put those three at the top of my list of guesses, based on the rumors we are hearing from PKM.
Edit: PKM also believes it's a SF, and all three of those players (Miller, White, Taylor) could be said to be SF's. These are definitely my guesses.
This most likely leaves us with:
Austin Rivers (though, PKM said he heard it's not a SG)
Quincy Miller
Terrence Jones
Terrence Ross
Jeff Taylor
Tony Wroten
Royce White
The second piece of information that we have is that we're going for a pick around #15, meaning the Jazz believe their guy will be available after the lottery. In other words, if we were in love with a prospect and were willing to trade for a pick, why would we trade for a pick that is below where that player is expected to be available? We seem very confident that this prospect will fall to 15, which makes me believe it's not Terrence Jones. At least, he seems like the least likely to fall that low of the players I listed, so lets cross him off the list.
And I suppose we can cross Rivers off the list, assuming the Jazz view him as a SG more than a PG.
Next, if I really had to guess, I'd cross Ross and Wroten off the list. They both seem to have low BBIQ's--something I believe KOC values more than most.
This leaves us with:
Quincy Miller
Royce White
Jeff Taylor
Again, we have to keep in mind that we're aiming for a 15ish pick, meaning not only do we expect this player to fall outside of the lottery, but we probably don't think he'll be available much later than that. To me, that suggests Quincy Miller. I'm not sure many mocks have White or Taylor going ahead of Miller; it seems like they could easily fall to 20, IMO, but I have a harder time seeing Miller fall that far. So why would we be trying so hard to get a pick at 15, if the player could be had a little lower than that?
Although, Miller kinda seems like the least "Jazz like player" to me of those three, so who knows. This is all just major speculation by me, but I'd probably put those three at the top of my list of guesses, based on the rumors we are hearing from PKM.
Edit: PKM also believes it's a SF, and all three of those players (Miller, White, Taylor) could be said to be SF's. These are definitely my guesses.