Should Mitt release his tax returns?

[PearlWatson]

Engineering has been the leading middle class job category for quite some time. If they have a problem finding work then they're probably in the construction industry. You should join hands on an infrastructure jobs bill and quite hurting your two brothers.

That's what Obama said his stimulus was all about.

 

[northeast]

Gesicht's sister very well could have had the exact same loan, just different year.

Again, you are reinforcing my post -- not a big deal, carry on.

 

[SaltyDawg]

You keep propogating cave-aged worries like the fishing net putting people out of work and the John Deere tractor putting people out of work and the cancer radiation keeping too many workers alive for too long and taking healthy people's jobs and the automobile bringing in outside goods and the trains saving too much fuel and putting teemsters union workers out of work as well as cleaning up the air too much and putting too many clean air industry workers out of work.

Let me know when you start embracing change.

I have never supported any of those positions. And frankly, none of them are even remotely close to the same thing.

Closing a factory and opening a new one in China does not create American jobs. If it did, our economy would be booming right about now. Instead, China's is booming and we have our worst economic crisis since the great depression (and may prove worse than the great depression when it's all said and done).

 

[franklin]

Again, you are reinforcing my post -- not a big deal, carry on.

Which was?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Again, you are reinforcing my post -- not a big deal, carry on.

Okay, nice.
Apparently your point was not very clear to me.
I didn't understand it that way. It's okay with me if we agree.

 

[SaltyDawg]

That's what Obama said his stimulus was all about.

No, 1/3 of Obama's stimulus was tax cuts.

Obama did have a jobs bill that would have rebuilt the nation's roads, bridges, tunnels, etc, but the republicans in congress blocked it.

How many jobs bills have those same republicans tried to push through? They did have 30 or 40 meaningless votes to repeal obamacare, so they must have had time.

 

[franklin]

I have never supported any of those positions. And frankly, none of them are even remotely close to the same thing.

Closing a factory and opening a new one in China does not create American jobs. If it did, our economy would be booming right about now. Instead, China's is booming and we have our worst economic crisis since the great depression (and may prove worse than the great depression when it's all said and done).

The great depression was aided by your beggar thy neighbor sentiment. I said to get back to me after embracing change, cave boy.

 

[SaltyDawg]

The great depression was aided by your beggar thy neighbor sentiment. I said to get back to me after embracing change, cave boy.

I'm not begging for anything, and I am embracing change. I'm saying we need to stop sending jobs to China (change) so the middle class in the USA can get back to work.

 

[franklin]

The great depression was aided by your beggar thy neighbor sentiment. I said to get back to me after embracing change, cave boy.

I'm not begging for anything...

.....woof... the depth of Saltyfog's understanding of the way the world works, ladies.

 

[SaltyDawg]

.....woof... the depth of Saltyfog's understanding of the way the world works, ladies.

Lol, I misread that. I thought you were saying I wanted to beg from my neighbors (entitlement attitude or whatever you were saying before). My bad.

It's still not an entirely accurate statement though. I'm just saying American companies should really be American companies. They shouldn't be hiding behind American protections, living like fat cats in America, and sending all of their jobs and investments overseas.

 

[northeast]

Good Morning America.
Turns out Romney (Bain) got some free stuff.
It appears that he negotiated for Bain with the FDIC to get $10,000,000 in debt forgiveness from Bank of New England around 1991 to 1993.

 

[Stoked]

Good Morning America.
Turns out Romney (Bain) got some free stuff.
It appears that he negotiated for Bain with the FDIC to get $10,000,000 in debt forgiveness from Bank of New England around 1991 to 1993.

I got a free Coke this morning. Guess I cannot run for president...

 

[One Brow]

"Job Creators" aren't creating jobs because they don't have to.

You say really stupid stuff.

He does say really stupid stuff, often, but this quote is not among them. No one will hire a person simply because they have money lying around. You hire people because your current staff can't meet the demand for your product. If you give a CEO a million-dollar tax credit, but there is no increase in the market, he'll just distribute that to the shareholders. That will stimulate a little, but hiring unemployed people directly is a much more effective stimulus.

 

[One Brow]

Without getting into it, "such activity" could mean "any such passive activity", and likely does. ...
Once again, you are getting me to do more work to satisfy you on this tiny and settled point. and Franklin has not lifted a finger on the issue.

My reading is different than yours, and my interest is insufficient to warrant such research. I find your attacks on franklin on this issue to be meritless.

 

[One Brow]

...kill these horrible free trade agreements, and then let the free market take over from there.

That's a self-contradiction in less than a sentence. Nice work.

 

[One Brow]

That's what Obama said his stimulus was all about.

That was the goal. The reality was that 40% of the stimulus went to tax cuts. If you thinkthe stimulus failed, you think tax cuts failed.

 

[northeast]

My reading is different than yours, and my interest is insufficient to warrant such research. I find your attacks on franklin on this issue to be meritless.

He ridiculed others for their lack of sources.
He made a baseless assertion.
I asked him for a source.
He gave what he claimed was his source.
His source did not support his statement, proving that he was just BS'g.
I showed that his source contradicted his premise.
I found another source to further contradict his premise.
I quoted my sources, which Franklin never took any time to do.
I found a 3rd source, to disprove his premise.

You have goaded me into spending a lot of time on this.
You have not spent one sentence asking Franklin to explain anything.
Franklin has not spent one minute researching any sources.
You have not spent one minute researching any sources.
Your reading on the language is incorrect.
You logic is incorrect.
Franklin has admitted that I am correct.
YOU don't know what you are talking about on this issue, or if you do you have not spent one minute proving yourself.
One Brow you can go f yourself.

 

[northeast]

Let me ask you this One Brow.
At this point in time, do you or do you not believe that the tax law allows someone at some point in time to write off a loss on a passive business against some other business gain or some other income?

 

[northeast]

One Brow show us the language in Franklin's source that says someone can not write off a passive loss against a passive gain from a dif business.
Until you do this, you are just a blowhard, and his source has not proved me wrong.
You are misinterpreting the meaning of the words if you think otherwise.

 

[Stoked]

One Brow show us the language in Franklin's source that says someone can not write off a passive loss against a passive gain from a dif business.
Until you do this, you are just a blowhard, and his source has not proved me wrong.

DING DING DING! We have a winner!