Should Mitt release his tax returns?

[margodydek]

Becasue they are deductions, not credits, $.85 of every dollar Romney gives to charity comes from Romney's pocket, while only $.15 is tax reduction.

This reminds of the "write-off" scene with Jerry and Kramer.

 

[SaltyDawg]

That's hardly his whole campaign.

What else is there? I haven't seen anything about his record as governor. What else is he campaigning on other than his record in business and how it will help the economy?

I'm well aware of that. I still don't see how it relates. Would your own opinion be any different if Mitt's father were not one of the first to start the practice?

I would still think he should release them if his father wasn't the one who started the practice. It's just an even bigger shock that he won't release them since his father is the one who started it. Kind of like how if his father was the one who first started saying "I have met my legal requirements" then I could understand why Mitt was also saying it.

Thanks for the reference. No, I wasn't familiar with that. If the majority of Americans feel that way, I'll actually change my mind and agree that Romney should release more returns.

Yeah, there have been many polls like this out for a while now. The majority of Americans have been wanting him to release more tax records. And the more he refuses, the more people are wondering what he is actually hiding.

This is why it is so baffling to me that he won't release them. If it was really only a small percentage of people who aren't going to vote for him anyway, then I could understand why he wouldn't release them. But the majority of Americans want him to, and have been wanting him to for a while.

 

[northeast]

$.85 of every dollar Romney gives to charity comes from Romney's pocket, while only $.15 is tax reduction.

I doubt this is accurate. Let's see the returns.

 

[Stoked]

Trust me, the only thing Obama supporters are worried about is voter suppression. And even with a fair amount of voter suppression, Obama is still probably going to win by a decent margin.

So you hope. I think it will be a very close election personally.

 

[Stoked]

Hogwash. Show us the returns.

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[SaltyDawg]

Becasue they are deductions, not credits, $.85 of every dollar Romney gives to charity comes from Romney's pocket, while only $.15 is tax reduction.

And 10% of his income would be donated to "charity" either way.

 

[SaltyDawg]

You mean requiring ID to vote? And if Obama's got this in the bag, then why do you care if Romney releases his taxes or not?

Requiring ID to vote is part of it. Limiting access to the polls in areas that voted heavily for Obama is another.

 

[margodydek]

What else is there? I haven't seen anything about his record as governor. What else is he campaigning on other than his record in business and how it will help the economy?

I would still think he should release them if his father wasn't the one who started the practice. It's just an even bigger shock that he won't release them since his father is the one who started it. Kind of like how if his father was the one who first started saying "I have met my legal requirements" then I could understand why Mitt was also saying it.

Yeah, there have been many polls like this out for a while now. The majority of Americans have been wanting him to release more tax records. And the more he refuses, the more people are wondering what he is actually hiding.

This is why it is so baffling to me that he won't release them. If it was really only a small percentage of people who aren't going to vote for him anyway, then I could understand why he wouldn't release them. But the majority of Americans want him to, and have been wanting him to for a while.

Asking Americans if Romney should release his taxes is a rather ambigous question. If you asked me if he should release them, I'd say: yes. But as someone who shares a lot of his same values, Mitt's already got my vote, so I wouldn't be answering yes because I personally think it's disadvantageous to his campaign not to release them, not because my vote depends on it.

 

[SaltyDawg]

So you hope. I think it will be a very close election personally.

Yeah if millions of democrats in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida aren't allowed to vote, then it will certainly be a closer election than it should have been.

 

[northeast]

true (2 up) , which only shows that he is likely hiding something

 

[Stoked]

Yeah if millions of democrats in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida aren't allowed to vote, then it will certainly be a closer election than it should have been.

Hahaha, that is funny stuff. Keep it coming.

 

[Stoked]

true (2 up) , which only shows that he is likely hiding something

So you hope.

 

[margodydek]

true (2 up) , which only shows that he is likely hiding something

My personal opinion is that he's afraid to release his taxes, not because of something fishy or immoral, but they'll probably open up a whole can of worms about his business deals. Say he invested in a company that he probably shouldn't have, or he made a really bad deal or two. While I don't think there would be anything earth-shattering, I do think realeasing his taxes would provide Obama's team with enough material to really derail his campaign. I think he probably wishes he did this earlier on to get it out of the way, but I wonder if he fears that he missed that window and it would now be too detrimental to his campaign to go ahead and do it.

 

[colton]

That's hardly his whole campaign.

What else is there? I haven't seen anything about his record as governor. What else is he campaigning on other than his record in business and how it will help the economy?

Is Romney's record in business the reason that you yourself oppose him? I doubt it. If there are other reasons why you oppose him, why is it a stretch to think there are other reasons people support him?

To see what he is campaigning on, I suggest you see his campaign website, here: https://www.mittromney.com/issues (Disclaimer: I haven't read much of it myself.)

 

[Dr. Jones]

If someone can't or won't get a damn I.D. then they are disqualified from voting in my book. TS.

 

[margodydek]

If someone can't or won't get a damn I.D. then they are disqualified from voting in my book. TS.

I think it's fairly racist to assume that there are certain demographics out there who are incapable of getting an I.D.

 

[northeast]

I think it's fairly racist to assume that there are certain demographics out there who are incapable of getting an I.D.

ding ding ding, we have a winner!

 

[margodydek]

ding ding ding, we have a winner!

Not sure if I was clear, but I was agreeing with PKM. Obama's campaign is scared that voter ID requirements will take away a lot of his votes from certain demographics. I think those demographics should take that as a slap in the face as the President of their country bascially finds them incapable of obtaining a government issued ID.

 

[Stoked]

I think it's fairly racist to assume that there are certain demographics out there who are incapable of getting an I.D.

There is a huge difference between not gettign an ID and being incapable. Only people I think would be "incapable" are those whith mental problems. For those who cannot becasue of things like being an elderly individual with no BC exceptions should be made in the rules to easily and efficiently provide them with one free of cost to them.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Is Romney's record in business the reason that you yourself oppose him? I doubt it. If there are other reasons why you oppose him, why is it a stretch to think there are other reasons people support him?

To see what he is campaigning on, I suggest you see his campaign website, here: https://www.mittromney.com/issues (Disclaimer: I haven't read much of it myself.)

His record in business is a huge part of why I'm not voting for him (outsourcing jobs, buying up companies only to saddle them with debt then pay himself a huge dividend and lay everyone off, etc). But I am also not voting for him because I have no idea who he really is. He has flip flopped on every major issue.