Gyp Rosetti
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Did you think any of this through?
OFFICIAL: Trade Deadline Thread
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Did you think any of this through?
Fishsticks
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I was thinking the same thing...first off we absolutely rape everyone in this trade and second is Kahn our new gm?
Zulu
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Horrible the sixers give up hawes and turner for Al who can walk at the end of the year...
Give me one good reason the sixers wouldn't just hand up the phone the second they hear this trade??
green
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Clippers are a title contender. They aren't giving up that much for Pierce.
IBProfane
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That's interesting. I like some of the Knicks pieces like Shumpert, Novak but don't see how they help us going forward. I also don't really see anyone on the Jazz that the Knicks would be interested in outside of our young core 4. I don't think they'd want Millsap, they have Stoudamire and play Anthony a lot of minutes at the 4. I don't think I've seen a Jazz/Knicks proposal anywhere on the internet, would be interested to see if someone could put together a reasonable deal.
Gyp Rosetti
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They have absolutely nothing we want. Nothing.
George
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IBProfane
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That is a great deal, fills a need for each team and is well balanced. I don't think Danny Ainge is ready to part with Pierce yet, that could change in the next 2 weeks though.
Hedda Gambler
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1. They are ready to give up on Turner and are looking to trade him, based on the latest reports.
2. They get instant help from Al.
3. They get to test a line-up with Holiday-Al-Bynum and can then decide if it is something they want to pursue.
4. They get a first round pick.
Zulu
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Turner was a #2 pick and has put up good numbers this year. They maybe looking to trade him but not for a player who can walk at the end of the year!!
Hedda Gambler
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Turner started off decent this year, but his numbers for the season are nothing to be very excited about. As for him being a former 2nd round pick, that really does not matter at all except for in people`s heads.
Philly wont trade for an expiring player you say? Does Bynum ring a bell?
freakazoid
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And since that worked out so well, they probably can't wait for the chance to take another gamble.
green
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If I were the Clippers, and I thought I was a title contender, I would NOT part with Billups. The dude is clutch at the end of games. He is this generation's Robert Horry.
green
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Here is what I believe a realistic trade, that would benefit both teams:
https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=abepkvc
Washington out: Okafur, Wall
Washington in: Jefferson, Burks, Watson, GS pick
Utah out: Jefferson, Burks, Watson
Utah in: Wall, Okafur
One, Utah is in the unique position that they can take on bad salary for talent for two reasons: 1 - they aren't signing a max player this summer and 2 - their best players are still on rookie deals for a couple more seasons.
This gives Utah a player to start alongside Favors, makes Milsap expendable (either walk or trade), let's Kanter get more PT without relying on him too much, and most importantly, gives Utah their young pg and potential superstar. Could you imagine Wall and Favors with Hayward on the wings? That is a deadly core group, and that doesn't include Kanter.
Washington does this because they get a lot of salary cleared off their books. They get Alec Burks, a promising young player that can play the pg position. They also get a draft pick from Utah. They can give Al a trial run and then at the end of the year they can put their top draft pick on a pg or another big guy depending on how they like Al. If they like Al, they have All-Star level Center, Power Forward, a very promising SG, and very promising backup SG/PG (Burks) and if they draft a PG with a top 3 pick they look very, very good going forward. Al is still very young and would potentially be an All-Star in the East.
https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=abepkvc
Washington out: Okafur, Wall
Washington in: Jefferson, Burks, Watson, GS pick
Utah out: Jefferson, Burks, Watson
Utah in: Wall, Okafur
One, Utah is in the unique position that they can take on bad salary for talent for two reasons: 1 - they aren't signing a max player this summer and 2 - their best players are still on rookie deals for a couple more seasons.
This gives Utah a player to start alongside Favors, makes Milsap expendable (either walk or trade), let's Kanter get more PT without relying on him too much, and most importantly, gives Utah their young pg and potential superstar. Could you imagine Wall and Favors with Hayward on the wings? That is a deadly core group, and that doesn't include Kanter.
Washington does this because they get a lot of salary cleared off their books. They get Alec Burks, a promising young player that can play the pg position. They also get a draft pick from Utah. They can give Al a trial run and then at the end of the year they can put their top draft pick on a pg or another big guy depending on how they like Al. If they like Al, they have All-Star level Center, Power Forward, a very promising SG, and very promising backup SG/PG (Burks) and if they draft a PG with a top 3 pick they look very, very good going forward. Al is still very young and would potentially be an All-Star in the East.
green
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It all comes down to if they see a pg in the draft they would like.
They would have a monster front court in Al and Nene.
They would have a very good sg.
They would have a good backup pg/sg in Burks.
They would be sacrificing Wall for a proven big guy in Al. With Al, they make the playoffs next year.
It all comes down to whether they like a pg in the draft.
GVC
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They can get better value for Wall.
green
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Like who? Who averages 17 and 10 and 2 assists and 1 block that the Wizards could get?
There is Aldridge, Portland has Lilliard.
Lee - GS has Curry
Lopez - Brook has Deron
No one else would be interested in Wall.
Now, like I said, it all depends on how they feel about Wall. They have never had more than 23 wins with Wall, and Wall has constantly been injured. If they like a young pg in the draft, then this is a great trade for Washington and a great trade for Al.
This trade puts Washington in the playoffs next year. Al and Nene and Beal would get them into the playoffs. Add in a young pg and that is a good starting five. If the Wash owners are sick of losing and want to make some noise (and getting into the playoffs would do that), then this is a good trade.
If they like Wall, and want to continue to hitch their wagon to him (23 wins, 20 wins, 9 wins due to injury) then this is a moot point.
So, I guess my question is this: Where is this better value coming from? Who can they get better than Al, Burks and a pick?
There is Aldridge, Portland has Lilliard.
Lee - GS has Curry
Lopez - Brook has Deron
No one else would be interested in Wall.
Now, like I said, it all depends on how they feel about Wall. They have never had more than 23 wins with Wall, and Wall has constantly been injured. If they like a young pg in the draft, then this is a great trade for Washington and a great trade for Al.
This trade puts Washington in the playoffs next year. Al and Nene and Beal would get them into the playoffs. Add in a young pg and that is a good starting five. If the Wash owners are sick of losing and want to make some noise (and getting into the playoffs would do that), then this is a good trade.
If they like Wall, and want to continue to hitch their wagon to him (23 wins, 20 wins, 9 wins due to injury) then this is a moot point.
So, I guess my question is this: Where is this better value coming from? Who can they get better than Al, Burks and a pick?