I would much prefer Jefferson being put out to pasture at this point for the development of Enes and Derrick. I think at this point it's pretty clear Al and Paul are both unneeded next year. I know I've said this a few times but I'd love a guy like Landry for a three year deal.
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I'd still try, hard, to sell Paul on a decent contract. If not then a good backup must be found.
DutchJazzer
Banned
why would you put away with sap
if used right paul favors and enes can be used at 30 miutes a game.
reward the hot hand with 36-38.
or would you prefer marvin at 4?
Weezur
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Foye made like 4 shots in a row in the 3rd quarter. He wasn't efficient (11 points on 11 shots) but meh. 11 shots isn't chucking.
And yeah Foye got burned a lot by Kyrie but Foye did have that block. This can be fixed though, I think Mo would be the one to guard Kyrie if Mo had more minutes. Mo can keep up with guards like that so this can be improved.
I think Corbin wanted to see if Marvin was maybe more effective as a stretch 4. Yeah Marvin had 0 points and didn't really effect the game, but he did have a couple nice drives because he was much faster than the 4 trying to guard him. I'm not sure if Corbin's developed offensive sets for the stretch 4 because the paint should've been much more freer than it was. We may not see this lineup ever again, though so it'll be fixed.
Carrole was kinda sucky today. I wouldn't have given him more minutes. Kinda wished we saw Marvin at the 3 spot on the bench instead of the 4 so that Favors and Kanter could've gotten more time.
DutchJazzer
Banned
Kante rplaying 21 minutes is UNACCEPTABLE
I'm just thinking forward a little and the prospect of having paul at 10-12 mil, favors at 12 and kanter at 12-15 is pretty brutal. Having Landry at like 5-6 a year is preferable IMO.
Kinda sucky v. terrible (Marvin has been horrendous lately) and I'll take kinda sucky.
The Thriller
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Doesn't the media here just piss you off?
Literally, Monson, PK, Gunther, and Graham are the only ones who ever "dare" defy the Jazz Empire.
In the post game you have Boler asking Hayward, "So even though Mo hadn't played in a few months, what kind of lift did he provide?"
Great question Boler... And of course Hayward can't be honest and say, "Mo really screwed the pooch. He should have barely played after missing so much. Especially in crunch time. King Krupa is a dumbass."
Checkettes and Parks (who is only good to listen to when he does impressions):
"Well, this is a young and developing team. Everyone was calling for the young players and now you're seeing the results. They're doing ok without their best offensive weapon."
LOL huh??????????????? These aren't growing pains. Without the kids, we'd be getting blown out in these games. It's the vets who are screwing up. Millsap last game missed a ft. Marvin, Watson, and Foye gave us a donut.
This game? Mo was worthless, Marvin again looked like a scrub on some Div III team, and Millsap choked down the line. Had we stuck with Burks and Kanter we would have won.
Growing pains? Here are growing pains:
#1 Shipping Marvin's *** to N. Dakota.
#2 Limiting Mo's mins until he gets back into the groove of things. There's no way he should be playing crucial mins right now.
#3 Limiting Millsap. If he wants to maybe play the 3 and can be effective, then try it out. Otherwise, it should be all Favors and Kanter now.
#4 Severely limiting Foye.
#5 No more Watson. Play Hot Rod Hundley over Watson.
#6 Give the Big 5 (Carroll) 30+ mins.
#7 Play Murphy and pogo stick. I want to see if these guys belong in the NBA.
#8 Growing pains? Face it, we ain't making the playoffs. Not with the road schedule we have left. Begin to assess the future and make changes here in a few months. We'll have a lotto pick.
In the next few games we should be blown out. Time to assess things.
Literally, Monson, PK, Gunther, and Graham are the only ones who ever "dare" defy the Jazz Empire.
In the post game you have Boler asking Hayward, "So even though Mo hadn't played in a few months, what kind of lift did he provide?"
Great question Boler... And of course Hayward can't be honest and say, "Mo really screwed the pooch. He should have barely played after missing so much. Especially in crunch time. King Krupa is a dumbass."
Checkettes and Parks (who is only good to listen to when he does impressions):
"Well, this is a young and developing team. Everyone was calling for the young players and now you're seeing the results. They're doing ok without their best offensive weapon."
LOL huh??????????????? These aren't growing pains. Without the kids, we'd be getting blown out in these games. It's the vets who are screwing up. Millsap last game missed a ft. Marvin, Watson, and Foye gave us a donut.
This game? Mo was worthless, Marvin again looked like a scrub on some Div III team, and Millsap choked down the line. Had we stuck with Burks and Kanter we would have won.
Growing pains? Here are growing pains:
#1 Shipping Marvin's *** to N. Dakota.
#2 Limiting Mo's mins until he gets back into the groove of things. There's no way he should be playing crucial mins right now.
#3 Limiting Millsap. If he wants to maybe play the 3 and can be effective, then try it out. Otherwise, it should be all Favors and Kanter now.
#4 Severely limiting Foye.
#5 No more Watson. Play Hot Rod Hundley over Watson.
#6 Give the Big 5 (Carroll) 30+ mins.
#7 Play Murphy and pogo stick. I want to see if these guys belong in the NBA.
#8 Growing pains? Face it, we ain't making the playoffs. Not with the road schedule we have left. Begin to assess the future and make changes here in a few months. We'll have a lotto pick.
In the next few games we should be blown out. Time to assess things.
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Marvin Williams 14 minutes of nothingness....ahem, *clears throat*.....again.
You just gave Corbin his next brilliant idea.
Kanter gets his minutes limited even though he put up 17 points, 7 rebounds, and had the highest +/- on the team in 21 minutes so that Marvin Williams can get 0 points and 2 rebounds in 14 minutes (and have a +/- that was negative despite playing on a stronger unit).
Will this ever stop?
Will this ever stop?
Corbin is hot garbage. That's what's going on. I've been watching the NBA since 1978. Seen a lot of coaches come and go. It's obvious to me when a coach is in over his head. Ty Corbin can't even find his head.
Earl Watson blows, but his minutes didn't prevent one of The Four from getting hard-earned opportunities. I'm sure Marvin Williams is a nice guy, but **** him in half.
lol. nice
Marvin is a nice guy indeed. He's made more money already than you I and 10 of our friends combined will ever make.
I can sleep at night if we throw him in the doghouse.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
I'm strangely ok with this. I don't think Corbin is bold enough, or bright enough to make this move on his own. It wouldn't surprise me if playing Marvin at the 4 was a direct order from K O'Lindsey. Have to see if Marvin can be the 3rd big for next season: a stretch 4. What this MIGHT mean is the Jazz have soured on Paul; they just don't think Millsap is going to be worth what he'll be asking for. I don't think Marvin is the answer, but neither are Paul or Al. Perhaps Utah gives up their second-rounder, or even the GS pick for someone to take Marvin off our hands...if they can find a solid big or SF in free agency (maybe even both for close to what Marvin is set to make).
DutchJazzer
Banned
or is jsut the raja bell josh howard dillema.
vets earned playing time even if they suck