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All I'm saying is that it's a weakness. Paul, Parker, Iverson, those guys make up for it with elite quickness. Schroeder is fast, but he's not quick like those guys. All I'm saying is that I'd like to see him bulk up a little, obviously he's young and he should be able to, but if you don't have his size as a weakness right now, then you're kidding yourself.
 
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All I'm saying is that it's a weakness. Paul, Parker, Iverson, those guys make up for it with elite quickness. Schroeder is fast, but he's not quick like those guys. All I'm saying is that I'd like to see him bulk up a little, obviously he's young and he should be able to, but if you don't have his size as a weakness right now, then you're kidding yourself.

Yes, it is a weakness but not enough to completely dismiss him.
 
Even "needs" are relative. I fail to see how having a third big (especially when you can only play two at a time) is as more important as having a single point guard (that might be still on the team in five years, or at this stage, ANY AT ALL). That's not even taking into consideration that the Jazz have Jeremy Evans and stop gaps that come off the bench are endless in their supply.

I would take Austin and Olynk over Schroeder. Yeah, PG is more of a need, but a 3rd big who can shoot is a nice luxury. Millsap was a 3rd big who backed up two All-Star bigs, but he was still a huge key to the Jazz's success back in the day.
 
I would take Austin and Olynk over Schroeder. Yeah, PG is more of a need, but a 3rd big who can shoot is a nice luxury. Millsap was a 3rd big who backed up two All-Star bigs, but he was still a huge key to the Jazz's success back in the day.

I probably would too, but where do you have Giannis vis a vis Olynyk and Austin?

I have:

McCollum
Austin
Olynyk
Schroeder
 
I would take Austin and Olynk over Schroeder. Yeah, PG is more of a need, but a 3rd big who can shoot is a nice luxury. Millsap was a 3rd big who backed up two All-Star bigs, but he was still a huge key to the Jazz's success back in the day.

But how good would those teams have been without a ****ing point guard? When did I say third bigs weren't important? Relativity.

Look, I get the point. I get that this is all an argument that is essentially BPA vs. drafting for need and the common wisdom is always draft BPA and MJ will inevitably come up. But it's really not that simple.
 
But how good would those teams have been without a ****ing point guard? When did I say third bigs weren't important? Relativity.

Look, I get the point. I get that this is all an argument that is essentially BPA vs. drafting for need and the common wisdom is always draft BPA and MJ will inevitably come up. But it's really not that simple.

Yeah, I get that it isn't that simple. I'm all for drafting need over BPA if the margin between players isn't that high. I just think in the case of Austin vs. Schroeder, it is a pretty high margin.

McCollum vs. Austin could be an argument of the margin being small enough to go need, but I'm not a big McCollum fan.
 
But how good would those teams have been without a ****ing point guard? When did I say third bigs weren't important? Relativity.

Look, I get the point. I get that this is all an argument that is essentially BPA vs. drafting for need and the common wisdom is always draft BPA and MJ will inevitably come up. But it's really not that simple.

ahhh the age old question.

add to that list Portland taking oden over durant.
 
Where do you guys think Sergey Karasev will go? He already has great experience playing his 3rd year on a competitive team and he is just 19 years old. He is said to have great work ethic too. He needs to bulk up and improve defensively but he can be a great prospect.
 
But how good would those teams have been without a ****ing point guard? When did I say third bigs weren't important? Relativity.

Well there are no D-Will's in this draft, hell I'm not sure there is a pg in our range that's any better then Mo. The only pg I can say with any real confidence that could be better then Mo is CJ. Frankly he's the only pg I'd even want in any of our first round picks. I feel we have a potentially strong starting lineup, and think we would do better to strengthen our bench with a decent third big.
 
ahhh the age old question.

add to that list Portland taking oden over durant.

Except that was just ****ing stupid of them. Portland chose two players with bad wheels (Roy was missing cruciate ligaments before he was even drafted, so because of that, drafted "need" by drafting a giant with a leg an inch longer than the other and being plagued by injuries in high school) over drafting what should've been fairly obviously the best player of the three if for no other reason than that the other two had career-compromising injury histories.
 
Where do you guys think Sergey Karasev will go? He already has great experience playing his 3rd year on a competitive team and he is just 19 years old. He is said to have great work ethic too. He needs to bulk up and improve defensively but he can be a great prospect.

honestly I am hoping 21 to the jazz.
 
Where do you guys think Sergey Karasev will go? He already has great experience playing his 3rd year on a competitive team and he is just 19 years old. He is said to have great work ethic too. He needs to bulk up and improve defensively but he can be a great prospect.

I think late teens at the highest, early 2nd at the lowest.
 
Where do you guys think Sergey Karasev will go? He already has great experience playing his 3rd year on a competitive team and he is just 19 years old. He is said to have great work ethic too. He needs to bulk up and improve defensively but he can be a great prospect.

He gets beat off the dribble a ton from what I've seen. If we didn't have Hayward I might be interested.
 
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