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Hotttnickkk said:
It really is quite amazing how quiet Randle is in this game.


A shadow of the guy who dominated that UK/Michigan St game at the beginning of the season. Dunno what the issue is with him....
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Why do you think there is an issue with him?

In his last game he went for 17 on 7-8 FGs and the game before that he went for 29 and 10 on 8-10 FGs. He's a freshman who had a bad game (still had 10 rebs, btw). Not seeing the "issue".

Meanwhile, Wiggins tore up the nets again going 2-9 FGs, this coming off a 4-14 performance against SDSU, a 3-10 against G'Town and 3-11 against New Mexico. I think the issue with him is that he might just not be a very good basketball player right now. Until he proves he can play, I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole if I were picking #1.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Why do you think there is an issue with him?

In his last game he went for 17 on 7-8 FGs and the game before that he went for 29 and 10 on 8-10 FGs. He had one subpar game (still had 10 rebs) - gasp!

Meanwhile, Wiggins tore up the nets again going 2-9 FGs, this coming off a 4-14 performance against SDSU, a 3-10 against G'Town and 3-11 against New Mexico.
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I don't get to watch a lot of college ball, today was a slow day at the shop so I was able to catch this 1 game. So I have no idea what he'd done in the other games, I can only go by what I see in this game.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
I don't get to watch a lot of college ball, today was a slow day at the shop so I was able to catch this 1 game. So I have no idea what he'd done in the other games, I can only go by what I see in this game.
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Makes sense. So let my post teach you. There is no issue (unless he's hurting or something we don't know about), rather he's just have a subpar scoring game - now with 12 rebs.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Makes sense. So let my post teach you. There is no issue (unless he's hurting or something we don't know about), rather he's just have a subpar scoring game - now with 12 rebs.
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I dunno man, just doesn't seem like Cal is running many plays for him neither, it's swing swing & a 3pt shot.. I hardly saw him post-up in this game. Granted, may be it was Mississippi State's defense that's doing a good job with him too.
 
Cal's challenging him.

Rick Ray's entire game plan was to not let Randle beat them. Randle was doubled and tripled if he just called for the ball. Johnson wasn't.

The attention on Randle opened things up for easy oops to Poythress and for Young to knock down shots.

Season is going as planned... get these guys to understand how to play together..
 
Hantlers said:
So because in past drafts there would only be one star means that in this draft it's being generous to say there might be 2 stars? Again, I'm not saying that your overall conclusion is wrong, but your way of getting to the conclusion is just horrid. Why are you so scared to just evaluate each player individually? Is it because you know that you can't? I'm starting to assume that it is.
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Uh, yes. Because statistically, over 70 years of drafts, only 1 player is a star in a draft. Why is this draft any different?


Not really. You can take bits and pieces from them, but they're really not that relevant. Each draft is full of new players, whom don't really have a lot to do with each other. For example, last year in the NFL draft people were saying how you can't take an Alabama RB because they're only successful because of the team they played on in college but limited pro prospects (Ingram and Richardson) and then Eddie Lacy happened. That's why you evaluate each player based on his own merits, not past draft history. I would love for you to explain how they are relevant though. Explain away, please.
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Why do you insist on picking out individual teams and players? If you look at each draft class as a whole, the talent levels are very similar. Could this be another 84, 96, or 03? Sure. But 70 years of drafts say it isn't likely. Very rare.
 
LunaticWolf said:
Uh, yes. Because statistically, over 70 years of drafts, only 1 player is a star in a draft. Why is this draft any different?




Why do you insist on picking out individual teams and players? If you look at each draft class as a whole, the talent levels are very similar. Could this be another 84, 96, or 03? Sure. But 70 years of drafts say it isn't likely. Very rare.
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I insist on picking out individual teams and players BECAUSE THEY ARE WHAT MAKE UP DRAFT. Are you dense?

Historical data does not always work in these cases because we're talking about individual cases that make up the whole. This really isn't that difficult. If you haven't even bothered to look at what players are likely to get drafted, then you cannot state an accurate opinion on how the draft will end up.
 
Interesting discussion if you haven't already seen it.. seems they're pretty high on Embiid...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k7CCRbXwwkc
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Interesting discussion if you haven't already seen it.. seems they're pretty high on Embiid...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k7CCRbXwwkc
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They said that there was no real superstar besides maybe Embiid in this draft. They are basically saying the draft is over rated.
 
I've ripped James Young in the past, and while I'd rather not see him take 18 shots, he did get 10 rebs and got himself to the FT line tonight. And hell, if the Harrison's aren't going to shoot it to save their necks, he might as well keep shooting while MSU clogs the paint.

Also, I still think Poythress has a chance to be a good player. He looked like one of the best players in his class in the McD's game and things just haven't worked out so far at UK. It was refreshing to see him play well tonight.

Meanwhile, Marcus Smart... :eek:
 
PKM said:
Cal's challenging him.

Rick Ray's entire game plan was to not let Randle beat them. Randle was doubled and tripled if he just called for the ball. Johnson wasn't.

The attention on Randle opened things up for easy oops to Poythress and for Young to knock down shots.

Season is going as planned... get these guys to understand how to play together..
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Even when Randle doesn't play "well", I still love his game. He was calling for the ball because that's who he is. He's aggressive. He doesn't feel like anybody can stop him unless they foul him. He always wants it and wants to attack. And then when he only gets seven shots, he goes out and grabs 14 rebounds. Beast.
 
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few comments
1. jabari parker's ceiling is KD/melo mix
2. embiid is 6ft 11 barefoot nowhere near 7ft 2
3. wiggins ceiling is tmac/paul george mix


upside is pretty damn high. but of course there is no true transcendent talent in this draft.
 
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