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orangello said:
Poythress is doing a lot of good things as well. Like the hustle plays that he is providing. I could see him as a valuable player off the bench.
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No, no, and no.

I want nothing to do with him. Waste of talent. I don't care how good these Kentucky guys are supposed to be, he can't even start. He has all of this talent, but won't do jack **** with it. He doesn't play the 3 that well...he's an undersized 4 who doesn't want to play the 4 position. Bleh.
 
Hantlers said:
I'm going to go ahead and say that it's because the athletic shooter that is Young, is shooting under 40% for the year. Or at least he was before this game tonight.

Dude shoots a lot, and doesn't make very many. He has a nice looking shot, but I'm a results driven kind of guy...I'm just not seeing that many results from him. Plus, his percentages should be better considering teams are doubling down on Randle quite often, which will leave other guys open, and Young does benefit from that on occasion. I can definitely see his talent, but I'm not impressed by his results so far.
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I don't disagree. I'm just asking who else is a better pick than him that the Jazz might be looking at if they miss out on the top 5?
 
Hantlers said:
No, no, and no.

I want nothing to do with him. Waste of talent. I don't care how good these Kentucky guys are supposed to be, he can't even start. He has all of this talent, but won't do jack **** with it. He doesn't play the 3 that well...he's an undersized 4 who doesn't want to play the 4 position. Bleh.
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I didn't say anything about where I would pick him. I'd certainly take a 2nd round flier on him.
 
orangello said:
I don't disagree. I'm just asking who else is a better pick than him that the Jazz might be looking at if they miss out on the top 5?
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Rodney Hood (I realize I'm being a homer, but at least the dude has produced. He doesn't have the potential, but he has produced)

Gary Harris (undersized, but dynamite player)

Nik Stauskas (good size, surprisingly athletic, he's white, great shooter)

McDermott (well...maybe not for us, but he's a better Kelly Olynk)

Smart (dynamite defender, he can defend the 2, he's a driver which means he'll get to the line a lot, emotional, leader)

Gordon (plays good defense, very athletic, very versatile)


All of these guys have at least one tangible basketball skill that they are elite at (except for maybe Hood). What does Young have? Athleticism...that's it. I like basketball players who produce, and Young ain't producing.
 
UGLI baby said:
I don't know if I like those players better than Young, and neither of us know if Young will get drafted after all those players. What you are saying carries no weight.

I am saying trading down in the NBA Draft is a bad practice. Pick the BPA at your pick because the assets you receive by trading down are marginal.

You're saying some hypothetical scenario where a player you like better than the players above him is for sure magically going to be available at whatever spot you want to trade down to.

I'm saying, as a Rule, never ever trade down in the NBA Draft. Just don't do it. It's been proven that you don't get enough of an asset haul.
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OG tryin to ignore this lol
 
Still love randle.
Eff the haterz (pkm)
 
Hantlers said:
Rodney Hood (I realize I'm being a homer, but at least the dude has produced. He doesn't have the potential, but he has produced)

Gary Harris (undersized, but dynamite player)

Nik Stauskas (good size, surprisingly athletic, he's white, great shooter)

McDermott (well...maybe not for us, but he's a better Kelly Olynk)

Smart (dynamite defender, he can defend the 2, he's a driver which means he'll get to the line a lot, emotional, leader)

Gordon (plays good defense, very athletic, very versatile)


All of these guys have at least one tangible basketball skill that they are elite at (except for maybe Hood). What does Young have? Athleticism...that's it. I like basketball players who produce, and Young ain't producing.
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I do like Stauskas. He has made a huge jump from last year. Shorter Hayward (because he's white) with a better shot?
 
UGLI baby said:
I don't know if I like those players better than Young, and neither of us know if Young will get drafted after all those players. What you are saying carries no weight.

I am saying trading down in the NBA Draft is a bad practice. Pick the BPA at your pick because the assets you receive by trading down are marginal.

You're saying some hypothetical scenario where a player you like better than the players above him is for sure magically going to be available at whatever spot you want to trade down to.

I'm saying, as a Rule, never ever trade down in the NBA Draft. Just don't do it. It's been proven that you don't get enough of an asset haul.
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All good points. Just wanted to know what your argument was.


Oh, my example of trading down being a good thing is when Orlando traded Bortchardt to the Jazz. They lucked out of that problem.
 
Another note on Young....

Including this game against LSU, he's had exactly 5 games where he has shot at least 50%.

He's had 9 games where he's shot under 40%.

He's had 6 games where he's been inbetween 40% and 50%.

So in almost half his games he's shot under 40%...tell me again why we're supposed to think he's a good shooter?
 
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