Hillary's Enemy List

[sirkickyass]

I decided that she was evil when I saw a report that said she used money that was supposed to go to victims of the Haiti earthquake for her campaign.

I agree that would be pretty bad, but I clicked the links you provided and saw literally nothing to support this allegation. To be honest, I'm not entirely certain how it's logically possible given that Hillary last ran for office in the spring/summer of 2008 and the Haiti earthquake happened in 2010. Barring a time machine to abscond with funds from 18 months in the future, the allegation appears to be false.

Now, I assume you also believe Chris Christie is evil because he actually did the thing you're accusing Hillary of here with Hurricane Sandy funds.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/01/13/politics/christie-feds-investigating-sandy-ads/

Even measured against most politicians she is scum. I wish I believed that there was a special place in hell for people like her and Tom Delay.

Still trying to figure out why you would say she is scum, the lowest of the low among even politicians.

The Haiti thing is obviously false.

You mentioned Whitewater. Near as I can tell that's largely a scandal that impacted the Jim Tucker administration in Arkansas rather than the Clinton administration.

In Lewinsky, Hillary is obviously not culpable. At worst she's a sympathetic figure.

So seriously, what did she do?

 

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DEc 24, 2008...Clinton's campaign still owes about $6.3 million to vendors after the New York senator wrote off $13.1 million in loans she personally made to the campaign....

The largest obligation -- $5.3 million -- is owed to the polling firm of Clinton's senior strategist, Mark Penn.

...The William J. Clinton Foundation became the latest group to buy access to the former first lady's huge e-mail list complied during the campaign, ABC News reported on its web site Wednesday.

The price paid by the foundation for the campaign e-mail list, however, will not be reported until next month, and Clinton aides have declined to say how much was paid -- but the price could easily be several hundred thousand dollars, ABC reported.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/24/clinton-turns-husbands-charity-retire-campaign-debt/

May 11, 2010....Clinton’s most recent disclosure report filed in April with the Federal Election Commission showed $771,000 in remaining debt, all owed to Penn, Schoen & Berland, the firm of former Clinton campaign manager Mark Penn....
...The Wall Street Journal reported last year that Clinton paid off the bulk of her debt by selling or renting out her list of political supporters to entities including her political action committee, her Senate campaign committee, and her husband’s charitable foundation.

https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/05/11/bill-clinton-donate-to-hillary-one-last-time/

So yeah little old ladies gave money to the victims of disasters including hurricane Katrina and the Haitian earthquake not realizing that the Clinton's would use the money as their own personal piggy bank.

 

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What was done above was perfectly legal but ethically evil, but if illegality is all that concerns you here is just one of many stories that give you an idea how the Clintons operate.
https://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/14/McAuliffe-Ally-Let-s-find-some-money-for-2008-Hillary-Clinton-Street-Campaign-Now-Under-Investigation

On Wednesday the Washington Post reported that Minyon Moore, a long time associate and ally of Virginia Democratic gubernatorial nominee Terry McAuliffe, played a key role in introducing Troy White, a political consultant, to a well known Democratic financier, Jeffrey E. Thompson. Thompson allegedly paid White $608,750 in illegal campaign expenditures to conduct get-out-the-vote activities in support of Hillary Clinton's failed 2008 Presidential bid.

 

[One Brow]

So yeah little old ladies gave money to the victims of disasters including hurricane Katrina and the Haitian earthquake not realizing that the Clinton's would use the money as their own personal piggy bank.

So, your saying the Clinton campaign should have provided those email lists for free, basically subsidizing the Clinton foundation? Would that even be legal?

 

[♪alt13]

So, your saying the Clinton campaign should have provided those email lists for free, basically subsidizing the Clinton foundation? Would that even be legal?

Would it be legal for her to make a charitable donation? ru srs

 

[TroutBum]

Hey Pearl, I hope you're reading this garbage. As an outside party, how stupid does HH look? That's what you look like. Every time you post.

Just sayin'.

 

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Our former presidents coming together to use charitable money to build for profit 5star hotel.

https://www.sott.net/article/247379-Clinton-Bush-Haiti-Reconstruction-Fund-Used-to-Build-Five-Star-Hotels

 

[TroutBum]

So now you're just bashing politicians in general? Way to tackle the issue, man. Go for that low-hanging fruit, you animal, you.

 

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Hey Pearl, I hope you're reading this garbage. As an outside party, how stupid does HH look? That's what you look like. Every time you post.

Just sayin'.

Do you have something to say other than calling people stupid. Are you capable of having an actual discussion and putting someone in their place using any rational form of conversation or do you always fall back on this crutch of yours, just curious.

 

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So now you're just bashing politicians in general? Way to tackle the issue, man. Go for that low-hanging fruit, you animal, you.

It's not politicians in general it is her husband who is the founder of the William J. Clinton Foundation that has been renamed the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation that Hillary is obviously involved in. Fair game.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/hillary-clinton-foundation_n_3365731.html

 

[♪alt13]

Full Disclosure I would have voted for Huntsman given the opportunity(in fact I did twice for Governor). I don't despise all politicians.

A man that by the way paid off the remainder of his campaign debt out of his own pocket.

 

[TroutBum]

Do you have something to say other than calling people stupid. Are you capable of having an actual discussion and putting someone in their place using any rational form of conversation or do you always fall back on this crutch of yours, just curious.

I almost always fall back on this, which is pretty sad, I agree. However, if you go back and read my first posts in this thread, I think I was fairly rational. You made a statement with your opinion, I responded with mine. Several others also responded like me. There has yet to be any proof, anecdotal or otherwise, that your opinion was based in any form of fact. You kept on keeping on, however, and instead of saying, "You know what, I might be off on my assessment" or even "Hmmm, good points, but I still hate her" (which would allow you to keep being ignorant, but at least you'd yield on the falsehood of her stealing from earthquake victims) but you chose to keep on posting crap. Once crap has been flung, I happily dive right in. It's cherry picking, I know, but I be who I be.

 

[TroutBum]

Full Disclosure I would have voted for Huntsman given the opportunity(in fact I did twice for Governor). I don't despise all politicians.

A man that by the way paid off the remainder of his campaign debt out of his own pocket.

Can you vote for Utah governor from Dallas?

 

[♪alt13]

I almost always fall back on this, which is pretty sad, I agree. However, if you go back and read my first posts in this thread, I think I was fairly rational. You made a statement with your opinion, I responded with mine. Several others also responded like me. There has yet to be any proof, anecdotal or otherwise, that your opinion was based in any form of fact. You kept on keeping on, however, and instead of saying, "You know what, I might be off on my assessment" or even "Hmmm, good points, but I still hate her" (which would allow you to keep being ignorant, but at least you'd yield on the falsehood of her stealing from earthquake victims) but you chose to keep on posting crap. Once crap has been flung, I happily dive right in. It's cherry picking, I know, but I be who I be.

Disagree with whether or not you think she did something evil but the Fact is (please read the link) people donated money to charity and it ended up in her campaign fund.

Can you vote for Utah governor from Dallas?

What?

 

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I almost always fall back on this, which is pretty sad, I agree. However, if you go back and read my first posts in this thread, I think I was fairly rational.

I've been known to steal a hog from the trough in my day, but this is just too much.

With or without the white stain?

You answered a seamen question by saying "cocktail".

I've been known to steal a hog from the trough in my day, but this is just too much.

I have no beef with Hilary other than she's uglier than nine miles of undercooked *******.

Context is everything. Or, in your case, not important.

Um, why?

I am all for voicing your opinions, especially when you don't agree with what your government -- local, state, federal -- is doing. But please, for the love of Satan, think before you speak. The reason more people don't speak up is because idiots like Pearl give anyone with a brain reason to not wade into the moron-pool. You can't argue or have an intelligent conversation, you know, to get things accomplished, when one party is clear out in left field and is cherry picking "facts" to back up their bias.

No slack will ever be given for such stupidity. It is my moral obligation.

I googled it and found nothing. I also realized who posted it and decided not to bother.

As for your other post:



I give tons of slack for stupidity and ignorance, because hey, if not for someone giving me a ton of it, I wouldn't be where I am today. Where I refuse to give slack is to someone who is woefully stupid and purposely ignorant of the facts. This isn't a left/right/middle thing, this is just a human/human/human thing. I've had my mind changed on many, many things over the years, so don't be so quick to judge me or Tink about our ideas or what we believe. Most of my political leanings are all over the map, and have been more to one side at one point or another; but that's just it, they change fairly easily depending on what new facts come up, etc.

I love that you're a lone wolf, but the same goes for you, dude. Open your mind a little bit, Ye Olde K-9, and you may discover a few new tricks.

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Must have missed this sentence on my first read through.

There is a reason that you couldn't find anything, and/or that you only found vague references to the accusation. The fact that you've based your hatred of a person on this pure lack-of-evidence tells me anything and everything I need to know about you. Not an attack on your personal integrity so much as it's another example of the PearlWatson mentality.

The fact that your previously banned alt was the second worst troll this site has ever seen has something to do with my dislike of you as well, but at least this incarnation isn't as bad.

1st) I have put out an open invitation to meet me and have yet to receive a pm from you or anyone else. You want to talk about hating someone with out a shred of evidence. Well that is precisely what you are doing. I have never had an alternative screen name on Jazzfanz period.

2nd) Haven't I read allegations that you have had multiple handles on this site?

 

[TroutBum]

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Well, I guess you got me there.

HH: 1

Trout: 0


I still get a silver medal though, right?

 

[♪alt13]

Well, I guess you got me there.

HH: 1

Trout: 0


I still get a silver medal though, right?

Do you srs think I'm an alt? I won't let it go because I do think it speaks to my integrity. If you think I am and that I live in Dallas(not really sure where that comes from) why not call my bluff?

 

[TroutBum]

1st) I have put out an open invitation to meet me and have yet to receive a pm from you or anyone else. You want to talk about hating someone with out a shred of evidence. Well that is precisely what you are doing. I have never had an alternative screen name on Jazzfanz period.

Who said I hate you? Just because you post your opinions and I disagree doesn't mean I hate you. There are only two people in the history of JF that I can seriously say that I hate: Hopper, because, well, he is Hopper, PearlWatson because he is Hopper, and NAOS.

I have no problem meeting with you, dude, but it wouldn't be because I want to prove that you are who you claim you are. Lunch with anyone is fun, and I've made it a goal to go feast with as many JF'ers as possible. It's a treat to meet people from every corner of the spectrum. From babe to craig1221, PKM to UGLI, and Colton to KatieMCR. As crazy as people seem on the site, they're always much cooler in person. So, in short, I'd love to meet up for some grub. Next time I'm in the SLC, I'll send you a Paul Millsap. If you're ever down here, give me a holler and McDonald's dollar menu is on me.

2nd) Haven't I read allegations that you have had multiple handles on this site?

I don't think so, man. I've always been TroutBum or E.J. Wells.

 

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Who said I hate you? Just because you post your opinions and I disagree doesn't mean I hate you. There are only two people in the history of JF that I can seriously say that I hate: Hopper, because, well, he is Hopper, PearlWatson because he is Hopper, and NAOS.

I have no problem meeting with you, dude, but it wouldn't be because I want to prove that you are who you claim you are. Lunch with anyone is fun, and I've made it a goal to go feast with as many JF'ers as possible. It's a treat to meet people from every corner of the spectrum. From babe to craig1221, PKM to UGLI, and Colton to KatieMCR. As crazy as people seem on the site, they're always much cooler in person. So, in short, I'd love to meet up for some grub. Next time I'm in the SLC, I'll send you a Paul Millsap. If you're ever down here, give me a holler and McDonald's dollar menu is on me.



I don't think so, man. I've always been TroutBum or E.J. Wells.

You used the word dislike and that is not really the issue that bothers me. It is the claim that I am the same person as "the second worst alt of this site has ever seen."

The fact that your previously banned alt was the second worst troll this site has ever seen has something to do with my dislike of you as well, but at least this incarnation isn't as bad.

I appreciate your invitation though I doubt I will be down there(I think you mean St. George) anytime soon.