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Interesting breakdown video of Hayward

Bodhi said:
Anything over $9mil is too much. I keep saying it, but his direct comparison in many ways is Batum and I'd take him over Hayward 10/10 times.
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And I believe Batum makes 11 or 12 million a year, might be overpayed for what he's actually worth, but thats the market
 
Hayward's shot has more problems than his thumb influencing his release. When he came into the league, his release on his shot was sooo slow. He has speed up his release, but it has caused other problems. He's often off balance and and if you watch his shot, he leans alot to the side. If he worked on his release, and worked on his foot work, he would be a much better shooter.
 
My favorite line is that "if he corrects his shot he could be in line of a contract extension like Lance Stephenson and Eric Bledsoe". Most Jazz fans would tell you that he is already better than both but I've really started to question that this year. Sad but true.
 
Doublea said:
I find it very strange that his release is different from last year. I wonder what made him change it? Maybe it was just psychological? Maybe because Hornacek left? It would be interesting to see if he's done this in the past.
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#Corbined
 
Crawlnstall said:
And I believe Batum makes 11 or 12 million a year, might be overpayed for what he's actually worth, but thats the market
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Ah, tell me more *raises foot to stool, placing chin on fist with elbow resting on raised knee, eagerly awaiting sage advice that can only be attained from decades of beard stroking*.
 
Until he develops a lethal "leapin' leaner," he'll never be a Hornacek.
That was one of my all-time favorite Hundleyisms.
 
Locke argues that Hayward should get max money because Batun is paid 11 million. Just because the Blazers over paid Batun does that mean we just over pay Hayward. If Hayward got a max deal, he would melt down even more than he did this year...Please don't do it DL.
 
Hayward has actually been playing pretty good this last month, though the team has gone 2-16...
 
Really liked their reason for why his shot is off. Never noticed his left hand before but he really is moving it a lot.

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sojodave said:
Locke argues that Hayward should get max money because Batun is paid 11 million. Just because the Blazers over paid Batun does that mean we just over pay Hayward. If Hayward got a max deal, he would melt down even more than he did this year...Please don't do it DL.
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Batum's a SOLID 3's and D's guy.


Can't say that about Hayward though...
 
sojodave said:
Locke argues that Hayward should get max money because Batun is paid 11 million. Just because the Blazers over paid Batun does that mean we just over pay Hayward. If Hayward got a max deal, he would melt down even more than he did this year...Please don't do it DL.
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Yup...Locke is a moron. One stupid decision by someone else doesn't justify making another stupid decision for yourself. My neighbor brags about how hasn't paid any income tax for the last 12 years (and hasn't been caught) does that mean I should try it out too?
 
akirac73 said:
Yup...Locke is a moron. One stupid decision by someone else doesn't justify making another stupid decision for yourself. My neighbor brags about how hasn't paid any income tax for the last 12 years (and hasn't been caught) does that mean I should try it out too?
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Maybe
 
akirac73 said:
Yup...Locke is a moron. One stupid decision by someone else doesn't justify making another stupid decision for yourself. My neighbor brags about how hasn't paid any income tax for the last 12 years (and hasn't been caught) does that mean I should try it out too?
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Yes. Get back to me on how it turns out. TIA

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I laugh at all of you who never expected our players to struggle. A bunch of crazies if you ask me. Every single one of them is playing the game in a different way, none more so than Hayward. Rome wasn't built in a day. The fact that Hayward's struggles(and successes!) have come in a contract year are not his fault, they are the FO's for timing the development of the core 4 this way. I expected lumps and bruises this year, and I saw lumps and bruises. Next year I expect healing for some of our players mixed with soreness, and more lumps and bruises for others.

People want to trade Kanter, and let Hayward walk because they're not all-stars at this point. Despite their struggles, they are both above average players at their position, and better than anyone available in the free agent market that we could get. No one is trading a top 5 pick this year, and anyone outside of that range doesn't match up value wise to either one of our players. They are only going to get better as they grow into their new surroundings with a new coach after going through the baptism of fire that was this year. Getting rid of either when we don't have to is a very bad idea.

This is a rebuild folks, and this is what it looks like. Expect more pain next year, and the year after that. We will be lucky if we make the playoffs in 2015-16, and I am ok with that. I see 2017-18 as our first year of serious contention. When we finally get there, we will stay there for a while. Maybe Hayward and Kanter will be a part of it, and maybe they won't. But, at this specific juncture the right move is to keep both. Kanter because of how few minutes he has played and how young he still is bodes well for the incredible amount of untapped potential he still has; and Hayward because there is no realistic replacement that is better, and if March is any indicator, he has taken big strides in his game towards figuring out how to be effective.

The prevalent principal for developing and accessing one's greatness/potential is from Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers," which says putting in 10,000 hours will make you an expert, and during that time big progression can take place. In Kanter's case, he is nowhere near that number. Kanter started playing late as a teen, and didn't play at all at Kentucky, and since he's been in the league he's only clocked 3900 minutes of in game action. He is still very much in his development and learning phase. You don't put up with the pain to trade him away and watch him be one of the league's best in a couple years time.
 
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