Following potential 2014 draftees

[Zulu]

1.Parker.... Keep Hayward at SG/Burks off the bench
2.Wiggins... Hayward at SF/Burks off bench
3.Embiid... Kanter off the Bench, three head sea monster (package Gobert & GS pick to move up and draft Mcbuckets)
4.Exum... Trade Burke & GS pick for Mcbuckets

 

[spycam1]

1.Parker.... Keep Hayward at SG/Burks off the bench
2.Wiggins... Hayward at SF/Burks off bench
3.Embiid... Kanter off the Bench, three head sea monster (package Gobert & GS pick to move up and draft Mcbuckets)
4.Exum... Trade Burke & GS pick for Mcbuckets

Eww

Burke >>> McStiff

 

[spycam1]

I think McD could be a good role player in the right situation, but there's no way in hell I would trade Trey for him under any circumstances. And packaging him with the GS pick? Just no.

 

[kabenac]

If we don't get top-3 I like Vonleh and Smart. And since we have Burke, Vonleh looks to be the natural choice. And Vonleh and Favors would play well together - Vonleh can stretch the floor = Favors playing the other team's center 1-on-1.

Noah is still very raw but as mentioned, he can stretch the floor and he's going to be a better defender than Randle.

I like Randle and think he will be good but believe Vonleh has a higher ceiling.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I don't think Trey worked out for the jazz, and we still traded up to get him.


This is the exact idiocy I'm talking about! You don't know **** about him. How the hell can you say he sucks or a bust, because you have no idea his style of play, his heart or attitude or weaknesses other then he plays against weak competition.

Completely different situation. Trey thought he was a top-10 pick; Jazz did not have a pick in that range. What has turned me off about Exum is that he has already come out and declared he would work out for just a couple of teams. He wants the spotlight and glamor of LA. Fine, Lakers can have him! That said, maybe I'd talk him up at #4 and then trade down with the Lakers for the #6 and another asset. LA does need a PGOTF.

My board (leaving off Exum):
Wiggins
Embiid (pending medical info)
Parker
Vonleh
Gordon
Randle

Randle is a better player right now, but I think Vonleh and Gordon can develop into dominant players at their positions.

 

[spycam1]

Completely different situation. Trey thought he was a top-10 pick; Jazz did not have a pick in that range. What has turned me off about Exum is that he has already come out and declared he would work out for just a couple of teams. He wants the spotlight and glamor of LA. Fine, Lakers can have him! That said, maybe I'd talk him up at #4 and then trade down his draft rights to the Lakers for another asset. LA does need a PGOTF.

My board (leaving off Exum):
Wiggins
Embiid (pending medical info)
Parker
Vonleh
Gordon
Randle

Randle is a better player right now, but I think Vonleh and Gordon can develop into dominant players at their positions.

Link?

I've never seen a quote or vid where these words came out of Exum's mouth.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think McD could be a good role player in the right situation, but there's no way in hell I would trade Trey for him under any circumstances. And packaging him with the GS pick? Just no.

GS pick and jl3 for mcbuckets

 

[Batman]

1.Parker.... Keep Hayward at SG/Burks off the bench
2.Wiggins... Hayward at SF/Burks off bench
3.Embiid... Kanter off the Bench, three head sea monster (package Gobert & GS pick to move up and draft Mcbuckets)
4.Exum... Trade Burke & GS pick for Mcbuckets

I think I take Stauskas over Mcbuckets.

 

[Game6Conley]

McBuckets is gonna get drafted at #10 by Philly, he can get volume shots from day 1 and maybe even start

 

[Hantlers]

Link?

I've never seen a quote or vid where these words came out of Exum's mouth.

He keeps on saying this, but he won't give any proof.

Me thinks that he misread or misinterpreted a quote.

 

[The Midnight]

I think I take Stauskas over Mcbuckets.

This.



Good post Batman.

 

[Zulu]

I think I take Stauskas over Mcbuckets.

Mcbuckets is NBA ready... He's gonna come in and Ball!!

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

I love mcbuckets. he can be a scoring machine. a point a minute man off the bench

 

[orangello]

I genuinely want Exum considered, league wide, to be in the mix with the Wiggins/Parker/Embiid group as far as potential franchise cornerstones when the dust settles. That obviously good for us, especially if we pick top 4.

That said, I'm looking over a lot of film from him lately and some of it is convincing me he will be very good and some has me thinking he will be less than great. My biggest concern is, IMO, he isn't an elite athlete.

Now walk with me, Exum lover, and realize I'm not trying to player hate, just trying to talk myself through this in the early stages.

Positives:
-first step
-ability to breakdown a defender, one on one, and collapse a defense (this is obviously huge)
-Length/size
-Passing (seems to find the best shot on the floor)
-defensive upside because of said length

Negatives:
-not elite athletically
-not considered a shooter at this point
-a good deal of unknown or lesser than competition (yes, and some very good)
-looks to play out of control at times

I think come combine and individual workout time we will hear a lot more about how he currently looks and how much he's grown just in working out with Kobe's trainer. That said, if I'm his agent, I very much limit anything athletically at the combine and am pretty strict on individual workout parameters. His stock is very high right now and he has more to lose than gain.

Again, I truly hope he creates a "big 4".

Fair assessment.

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[Bodhi]

Haha I keep laughing at the C4 comment too. I provided the link to the story about Exum and the Lakers and he says nothing of the sort. Like, you can't even try to infer that from any of his quotes.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

1.Parker.... Keep Hayward at SG/Burks off the bench
2.Wiggins... Hayward at SF/Burks off bench
3.Embiid... Kanter off the Bench, three head sea monster (package Gobert & GS pick to move up and draft Mcbuckets)
4.Exum... Trade Burke & GS pick for Mcbuckets

No way you bring Kanter off the bench right away if you draft Embiid. He might replace him eventually, but it would be an insult to start Embiid over him right away.

 

[orangello]

I like exum MUCH better at the one than the two.
Burks gets bullied by shooting guards in the league and he has decent size.

D wade, harden, wes matthews, hell even finesse guys like klay thompson would push exum around and post him up and punish him all day on the defensive end.
He wieghs 185 right?

I do like him at the point guard alot though. I have always wanted to have a big long point guard with big strides and a great first step.
I think if the jazz draft exum and he is as good as his hype says he is, then we should start taking offers for trey

You're in the minority on that thinking (but I agree with you).

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[orangello]

Ya i agree about playing trey more before trading him to get more value from him and i also would hate to see him go.

He's impressively clutch. That is the thing that I would miss the most.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

I genuinely want Exum considered, league wide, to be in the mix with the Wiggins/Parker/Embiid group as far as potential franchise cornerstones when the dust settles. That obviously good for us, especially if we pick top 4.

That said, I'm looking over a lot of film from him lately and some of it is convincing me he will be very good and some has me thinking he will be less than great. My biggest concern is, IMO, he isn't an elite athlete.

Now walk with me, Exum lover, and realize I'm not trying to player hate, just trying to talk myself through this in the early stages.

Positives:
-first step
-ability to breakdown a defender, one on one, and collapse a defense (this is obviously huge)
-Length/size
-Passing (seems to find the best shot on the floor)
-defensive upside because of said length

Negatives:
-not elite athletically
-not considered a shooter at this point
-a good deal of unknown or lesser than competition (yes, and some very good)
-looks to play out of control at times

I think come combine and individual workout time we will hear a lot more about how he currently looks and how much he's grown just in working out with Kobe's trainer. That said, if I'm his agent, I very much limit anything athletically at the combine and am pretty strict on individual workout parameters. His stock is very high right now and he has more to lose than gain.

Again, I truly hope he creates a "big 4".

The hype around Exum is so big I won't be surprised if he just does private workouts (by himself) and measures out. For sure won't do combine workouts and might not do athletic testing. He has nearly a year to work on his athletic numbers though (yes, you can artificially inflate them by training for the test).

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I like exum MUCH better at the one than the two.
Burks gets bullied by shooting guards in the league and he has decent size.

D wade, harden, wes matthews, hell even finesse guys like klay thompson would push exum around and post him up and punish him all day on the defensive end.
He wieghs 185 right?

I do like him at the point guard alot though. I have always wanted to have a big long point guard with big strides and a great first step.
I think if the jazz draft exum and he is as good as his hype says he is, then we should start taking offers for trey

Exum at point? I have no idea if he can, but we don't even know enough about him to know if he is even that great at basketball, much less able to be a NBA PG.