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lol restaurant threathened to be sued by atheist.

JAZZGASM said:
It is not about barring, it is about discriminating against a protected class. They are charging more to non-god believers as they do not pray. Our laws need to be consistent across the board. They were charging more to non-prayers.
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Theya re also charging more to God believers who do not pray.

So it is not that that they are getting charged more for not being religious. Plenty of religious folks paying that exact same price. Which is the listed menu price btw.

OK, I'm done. We are only repeating the same arguments over and over.
 
Stoked said:
Theya re also charging more to God believers who do not pray.

So it is not that that they are getting charged more for not being religious. Plenty of religious folks paying that exact same price. Which is the listed menu price btw.

OK, I'm done. We are only repeating the same arguments over and over.
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I'm not repeating arguments. I am stating what the court cases have ruled. To clarify, in the AVIS case, gays that were not openly gay (think Christians that do not openly pray) would also not get the discount. The rule still applies.
 
What if it were a 99% discount? Would it be discriminatory then? How about if they had a burger that cost $500, but if you pray to the East on your prayer rug, you get it for only $5. Would that be discrimination against those who don't want to do that for religious reasons?

The easy way to tell if something is discrimination is to simply turn it around.
 
gandalfe said:
What if it were a 99% discount? Would it be discriminatory then? How about if they had a burger that cost $500, but if you pray to the East on your prayer rug, you get it for only $5. Would that be discrimination against those who don't want to do that for religious reasons?

The easy way to tell if something is discrimination is to simply turn it around.
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If I could get a $500 burger for $% by kneeling on a rug facing east then why not. As long as they do not stop me from doing so. I would have no problem with that.

Or what if they said we will give 10% for anyone who brings us a "I hate religion" flier? Cool, I can bring one in and get 10% off.

Rock on to those businesses. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
 
gandalfe said:
What if it were a 99% discount? Would it be discriminatory then? How about if they had a burger that cost $500, but if you pray to the East on your prayer rug, you get it for only $5. Would that be discrimination against those who don't want to do that for religious reasons?

The easy way to tell if something is discrimination is to simply turn it around.
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Agree. Although I would just take my business elsewhere.
 
Gameface said:
Can't understand what the FFRF hopes to gain in these actions. Horrible PR, doesn't promote dialogue, doesn't gain acceptance for people who are not religious, just punishes people who want to support their religious community.

Dumb.
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They're the ones who will never allow themselves to be from religion because they let it bother them.
 
E.J. Wells said:
If I were the owner, after all of this free publicity (thanks atheist jack holes!), I'd just change my sign/receipts to show discounts for "public displays of meditation and thanksgiving". Everyone already knows that it's for praying, but now it's legal. You give the customer what they want all while giving the jack holes the finger.
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How about private reflection? You can thank God.. Allah.. Gnesha.. yourself.. mickey mouse... maybe even Obama for providing you with the means for such a fine meal.
 
ElRoach0 said:
How about private reflection? You can thank God.. Allah.. Gnesha.. yourself.. mickey mouse... maybe even Obama for providing you with the means for such a fine meal.
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If I was a business owner and I wanted to offer discounts for praying to mickey mouse? Right on! Who wants a discount?
 
ElRoach0 said:
How about private reflection? You can thank God.. Allah.. Gnesha.. yourself.. mickey mouse... maybe even Obama for providing you with the means for such a fine meal.
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one of them is an outright lie.
god, allah gnesha, yoruself, mickey mouse provides food. OBAMA DOES NOT>

lets not promote outright lying man.

jkeep this thread morrally corrrect
 
I have written in Mickey Mouse on a few ballots. One year he even got three votes in my small town for mayor.
 
also.
donald sterling got outed for saying "racist" stuff in his private home.
he would also get ousted for saying "anti" gay stuff.

yet had he used blasphemy and called christians stupid. and how he does not wanted his girlfriend to hang with christians. this would have been a non issue.


in short there is no equality.
let the christians(opr whatever religions) have their discount for praying.


edit: another simple real life example. tim tebow gets ridiculed for his faith.
 
One Brow said:
So, it's really hard to understand why non-religious people would be upset over being charged higher prices (or, does anyone really claim that getting a discount doesn't mean the price is lower)?
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It's not like every person that prays is getting a discount…and they aren't getting charged a higher price, they're getting charged the standard price. There's a difference between the two.
 
Core4 said:
And my bolded part does not do that. Anyone can kiss; they don't have to be homosexual. If I want to try for a 15% discount, I can kiss my brother or male best friend, even though I'm not homosexual. Now I DO find that offensive because it is distasteful to me ; I have no desire to kiss another male, although a certain percentage of the population does do that. But I would have to do something that I find offensive to qualify for a discount. I don't want to base a counter argument on same-sex. It can be a variety of things. This would be entirely different it were a discount for being polite (for example, thanking the wait staff). However you color it, this is largely a Christian-based practice (saying grace). And by saying "anyone can do it" you are saying atheists or non-Christians have to perform or fake a practice which is primarily Christian based.

Tell you what, since religion is the basis of this discount, how about a restaurant in SL offering a 15% discount if they see a Book Of Mormon on the table. Doesn't discriminate; you don't need to be Mormon to bring in a BofM. Anyone can do it.

And keep in mind, I'm posting this as an active Christian. I just completely disagree with that policy.
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Praying is primarily a Christian act? No, praying is a religious act. Pretty much every religion involves praying.

This is such a non-issue that I honestly can't believe people are mad about it. I swear people just need something to bitch about.


Oh yeah, I forgot this. Tell me why you disagree with this. Exactly why does it bother you that not everybody can get this discount? Because it's not fair? Because it has to deal with religion? Why does it bother you?
 
It's been completely ignored, but as I posted earlier, you don't have to pray to get the discount. Sit down in front of your food, hold your hands together under your chin and close your eyes - you're good to go. You don't have to spend even a millisecond praying. You don't even have to "meditate".
 
Hantlers said:
Praying is primarily a Christian act? No, praying is a religious act. Pretty much every religion involves praying.

This is such a non-issue that I honestly can't believe people are mad about it. I swear people just need something to bitch about.


Oh yeah, I forgot this. Tell me why you disagree with this. Exactly why does it bother you that not everybody can get this discount? Because it's not fair? Because it has to deal with religion? Why does it bother you?
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As a religious person myself (I attend church on a weekly basis and try to live according to my faith), this bothers me because it is a discount that only one group of people are eligible for. I seriously doubt bringing a rug and praying to the East would be acceptable in this restaurant. Would the owners of the restaurant tolerate ululation in celebration of the participants about to enjoy their feast? How about a tribal dance?
 
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