lol restaurant threathened to be sued by atheist.

[One Brow]

I appreciate that you feel it is your sworn duty to tell private individuals what to do with their private property, which includes private businesses, and how they should behave.

I italicized private since you left that yout intentionally.

Well, so much for my attempt to agree to disagree.

I am completely in favor of private individuals what to do with their private property, which includes private businesses. However, this restaurant was a public business, serving the general public under a public license, and so should treat the entire public equitably.

 

[franklin]

Well, so much for my attempt to agree to disagree.

I am completely in favor of private individuals what to do with their private property, which includes private businesses. However, this restaurant was a public business, serving the general public under a public license, and so should treat the entire public equitably.

so you want them to join the elks lcub and get a private license to discriminate so you can sooo them like you did the boy scouts for being a private partsy???

^^matchin

 

[Stoked]

Well, so much for my attempt to agree to disagree.

I am completely in favor of private individuals what to do with their private property, which includes private businesses. However, this restaurant was a public business, serving the general public under a public license, and so should treat the entire public equitably.

I don't like how you are posting an a public forum. There for I am going to come up with a list of rules that will make me happy and if you do not comply I will sue you.

 

[JAZZGASM]

The civil rights act prohibits discrimination by private businesses that provide public accomodations, including restaurants.

While religious discrimination is not important to many (even in Utah, which based in history is surprising), but fortunately the legal system protects all protected classes.

 

[Stoked]

The civil rights act prohibits discrimination by private businesses that provide public accomodations, including restaurants.

While religious discrimination is not important to many (even in Utah, which based in history is surprising), but fortunately the legal system protects all protected classes.

Yes we understand this. But yet again, no one was in any way shape or form excluded from any of these discounts.

Also our PM's show that I am the fringe on this issue anyways. I'm ok with that.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Why would I sit with my hands in a triangle for a few seconds?
If they want to give random discounts, program the cash register to give out discounts randomly.

Uh, because it's an easy way to save some money on food by participating in a restaurant's discount program?

Did you really just ask that question?

 

[fishonjazz]

How about a discount for anyone that checks a box that they believe in God? How about a 15% discount for anyone who states they aren't a Mormon? How about a 15% discount for those who check a box on a receipt that says they aren't gay? It is a slippery slope, and to an atheist, I assume it would be just as offensive. So while it is a bit innocuous, if we don't enforce the Constitution across the board, we aren't truly offering equal protection.

Go back to the AVIS case. Anyone can rent from them, anyone can use the discount code given to openly gay men. It doesn't hurt anyone, as everyone is allowed to use it.

Hey jazzgasm.
What about the"no shirt, no shoes, no service"?
Why is that rule ok?

 

[Stoked]

Uh, because it's an easy way to save some money on food by participating in a restaurant's discount program?

Did you really just ask that question?

Not to mention that is not the only way that people pray, I have seen hands positioned like that, clasped, arms folded, heads simply bowed...

 

[seattlejazzfan]

The civil rights act prohibits discrimination by private businesses that provide public accomodations, including restaurants.

While religious discrimination is not important to many (even in Utah, which based in history is surprising), but fortunately the legal system protects all protected classes.

This, however, is not a case of religious discrimination. To get the discount, you can be of any religion or no religion at all.

 

[fishonjazz]

What the history of discrimination against people who were not veterans?



What the history of discrimination against people who were not federal employees?

What's the history of discrimination against people who don't pray?

 

[fishonjazz]

This suit hasn't affected my ability to be an atheist at all, and I don't see why it makes it harder for you when other people say you should be automatcally excluded.



Why would I sit with my hands in a triangle for a few seconds?

In the hopes of a discount duh.

Our cause your eyes are tired

 

[candrew]

Why do people in the south call the "check" a "ticket"?

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Not to mention that is not the only way that people pray, I have seen hands positioned like that, clasped, arms folded, heads simply bowed...

Exactly. There are several ways you could position your body if you want the discount - yes, even atheists are capable of contorting their bodies in some of the ways you mentioned above.

 

[fishonjazz]

The issue is that the restaurant is proclaiming, as part of a service available to the public, that members of the public who perform "x" are superior to members of the public who do not perform "x".

Link to where the restaurant said anyone was superior to anyone else?

 

[Stoked]

Why do people in the south call the "check" a "ticket"?

Or calling all soda, "coke".

 

[Stoked]

Link to where the restaurant said anyone was superior to anyone else?

Didn't you know that the owner is religious so that is what it has to be? But that uninformed bias is ok to have.

 

[JAZZGASM]

Hey jazzgasm.
What about the"no shirt, no shoes, no service"?
Why is that rule ok?

It does not discriminate against a protected class.

 

[Stoked]

It does not discriminate against a protected class.

So by that measure I could ban all people with blue eyes? Blue eyes are not a protected class.

 

[JAZZGASM]

Yes we understand this. But yet again, no one was in any way shape or form excluded from any of these discounts.

Also our PM's show that I am the fringe on this issue anyways. I'm ok with that.

Actually, people that do not pray were excluded. As I said previously, it is similar to the AVIS case, where AVIS discriminated against straights by offering a discount code for gays, that anyone could use.

How about a rule that no gays are allowed in restaurants? Gays can still go in, they just have to act straight.

I understand you are on the fringe on this, and as you know, this issue is not that big no me, but that does not mean it is OK. Equal Protection should protect all protected classes, not just the ones I think are important.

 

[Stoked]

Actually, people that do not pray were excluded. As I said previously, it is similar to the AVIS case, where AVIS discriminated against straights by offering a discount code for gays, that anyone could use.

How about a rule that no gays are allowed in restaurants? Gays can still go in, they just have to act straight.

There was at no point a list of people that could not qaulify. So no they were not excluded by the business.

AS for your "no gays" that is not what is happening here. This restaurant did not say "No non-prayers allowed"

Also I'd refer you to an exact example I used of this of our PMs and my personal stance on it.