Huckleberry Finn
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This could lead to the final irony, are they going to censor Fahrenheit 451?
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The New World Translation is in more or less plain english.
https://www.towerwatch.com/Witnesses/New_World_Translation/new_world_translation.htm
LOL - but not true, my kids had excerpts from the Bible as part of the curriculum in Lit and/or History classes at a public high school
He is right on that... it's a good point.
And no... I'm sorry.... in my laziness I was not exactly on point with my sarcasm.
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This, of course, is the obvious answer. Don't even have to read the rest of the thread (though I will).
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haha i received an icy and impersonal infraction for posting that even though i apologized privately to a mod afterward while reassuring him that i would properly label nsfw videos in the future
NO DON'T CENSOR MARK TWAIN *censors the **** out of louie ck for almost the exact ****ing reason everyone here is raging against* durrrrr
clap clap admins, justice is served
NO DON'T CENSOR MARK TWAIN *censors the **** out of louie ck for almost the exact ****ing reason everyone here is raging against* durrrrr
clap clap admins, justice is served
like is this some meta thing here? trying to illustrate the point i was trying to get across earlier? are the mods saying that ****** is such a reactionary word that some uses of it should be censored and silenced, even in the context of commenting on an aspect of its censorship? because um point proved i guess? though comparing the jazzfanz community to a bunch of high schoolers unable to handle the discussion could be, um kind of offensive to everyone here but
yeah
like i was saying, '******' can jolt people into feeling uncomfortable no matter the context, so, um, you didn't really need to seal the deal with an infraction but thank you for the object lesson i guess?
yeah
like i was saying, '******' can jolt people into feeling uncomfortable no matter the context, so, um, you didn't really need to seal the deal with an infraction but thank you for the object lesson i guess?
NOTE TO ALL POSTERS: It doesn't matter if you "label" it or include a warning that the content may not be "G-Rated" - - if the image or video contains language that the profanity filter would replace with ***** if it were in a written post, then it does not belong in your post. The image/video will be removed and you will get an infraction.
and what did you want, Get Down? Perhaps I should have signed it: XOXO - Moe - or somehow tried to make it all warm and fuzzy for you?
And in case anyone is wondering, there were a number of words in the video in addition to the N-word that violated the profanity rule.
at any rate, I'd be curious to hear KEK's opinions since he teaches this stuff, and perhaps Conan too, though I think he's a science teacher so it may not be quite as applicable to him - and any others who teach at the junior high or high school level.
well since i sent a cordial private message to sirkicky after i noticed it was removed, i guess i expected something back from him instead of a boilerplate death warrant from the mod illuminati
and no haha you're right, the letter of the law was broken. i just find your judgment to be hilarious first in the context of my post, and second in the context of the thread. like four posts before mine you hinted at the importance of including lessons on the background and history of prejudice when it comes to teaching huck finn, because the context of the language of the novel is important in realizing why it's used. yet i link to a relevant video that examines a facet of our interaction WITH THE SAME DISPUTED WORD, but because it uses THE WORD, the video is yanked. then, when i approach a "teacher" to confirm why it was removed, i'm ignored and instead sent to detention, to the same room where people like clutch and hopper, who actively seek to skate the rules and frustrate others, reside. it's just so goddamn perfect, that the sentiment of a relevant, well intentioned post is forgotten because OH GOD HE SAID ******. hahaha, you and kicky couldn't have cooked up a better demonstration of this professor's frustration if you tried
this is to say nothing of the many, MANY horrible ideas that are espoused here daily that are far more offensive than louie ck saying ****, but whatever, i get it now, super draconian, tunnel vision, counterintuitive enforcement etc
but seriously your little bolded rule is really really stupid. like i can't believe you feel good about typing it out, it's really really dumb and insulting and it makes you look really foolish to be so authoritative about it
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Who reads Huck Finn in Public Schools anymore anyway? What public school still has enough money to purchase books these days?
What great 19th century work doesn't have language that would be considered politically incorrect today?
If kids aren't old enough to understand the 19th century way to describe African Americans, then they probably aren't old enough to be reading the book. Some of the greatest writing done in the past few centuries contain language that recently would be considered offensive. To me, reading this type of book is a look upon our history and the way peoples used to be described. Changing the language used greatly takes away from the historical benefits.
It also puts us on a slippery slope. What great work will be the next to be edited? How to Kill a Mockingbird? The Jungle? Common Sense?
What great 19th century work doesn't have language that would be considered politically incorrect today?
If kids aren't old enough to understand the 19th century way to describe African Americans, then they probably aren't old enough to be reading the book. Some of the greatest writing done in the past few centuries contain language that recently would be considered offensive. To me, reading this type of book is a look upon our history and the way peoples used to be described. Changing the language used greatly takes away from the historical benefits.
It also puts us on a slippery slope. What great work will be the next to be edited? How to Kill a Mockingbird? The Jungle? Common Sense?
I teach high-school math at a local community college. For my students, I would probably recommend the sanitized version of Huckleberry Finn over the original, especially if there were clear notations on where the changes where made.
I'm fairly sure that if the proscribed words had had the current the connotation when Twain was writing, he would have never included them. You might refer to this as a "dynamic equivalence" translation, like the New International Version of the Bible.
I'm also sure that Huckleberry Finn is a great book for teens, either way.
I'm not particularly found of the wording of the poll. EVen though I was inclined to "Yes", the stated reason had nothing to do with what I felt on the matter.
I'm fairly sure that if the proscribed words had had the current the connotation when Twain was writing, he would have never included them. You might refer to this as a "dynamic equivalence" translation, like the New International Version of the Bible.
I'm also sure that Huckleberry Finn is a great book for teens, either way.
I'm not particularly found of the wording of the poll. EVen though I was inclined to "Yes", the stated reason had nothing to do with what I felt on the matter.
It's one of the best non-Trinitarian translations to use.
"*uck Finn" would have made a much better thread title. You must be kicking yourself now for not using it.
I'm really struggling to understand why. You think college students are too stupid to realize that language and accepted use evolves? Explain yourself, sir.
I think students ready for a college curriculum can make the difference, and should be taught it. Perhaps you note how that is different from what I said.
Walk before you can run.