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The Westboro Baptist Church finds a new low

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Picketing the funeral of a nine year old girl? Seriously? Please slowly burn to death in a fiery crash. Please.

https://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/11/arizona.funeral.westboro/index.html?hpt=T1

Tucson, Arizona (CNN) -- Tucson just isn't that kind of town, says Christin Gilmer.

Gilmer is referring to the actions of Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas, which has made its name protesting the funerals of people who died of AIDS, gay people, soldiers and even Coretta Scott King.

But when the church announced its intention to picket the funeral of a 9-year-old girl -- one of six people who died Saturday during the attempted assassination of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords -- Gilmer and others put their feet down.

Tucson is a "caring, loving, peaceful community," according to Gilmer, who said two of the six people killed were friends.

"For something like this to happen in Tucson was a really big shock to us all," she said. "Our nightmare happened when we saw Westboro Baptist Church was going to picket the funerals."

They're planning an "angel action" -- with 8- by 10-foot "angel wings" worn by participants and used to shield mourners from pickets. The actions were created by Coloradan Romaine Patterson, who was shocked to find the Topeka church and its neon signs outside the 1999 funeral of Matthew Shepherd, a young gay man beaten and left on a fence to die in Laramie, Wyoming.

"We want to surround them, in a nonviolent way, to say that our community is united," Gilmer said. "We're a peaceful haven.

"You don't mess with Tucson," said Gilmer, 26, who described it as "a little dot of blue in a sea of red."

But political persuasions don't matter, she said. Republicans, Democrats, independents, right, left and center -- they've all offered their support. Forty-two people have signed up on a Facebook page called "Build Angel Wings for the Westboro Funeral Counter-Protest and Meeting," and more than 4,500 have signed up on another page to "Show Support for the Families of the Tucson Shooting Victims."

"People, businesses, they're all donating material and money to build the angel wings," said Gilmer, who is helping organize the action. She added they're donating to a fund created to help pay for services for the shooting victims.

Chelsea Cohen, a 20-year-old senior at the University of Arizona who launched the "Show Support" Facebook page, said she never expected such a response.

"Once I heard that the Westboro Baptist Church was coming, I felt like something should be done to show support for the families," she said. "I don't have any experience in organizing these things. I thought I might get 50 to 100 people."

Cohen said she thinks many of the 4,500 people who've signed up on the Facebook page will be there "in spirit" Thursday when mourners gather for the funeral of Christina Taylor Green, who was born on September 11, 2001. But she added, Tucson is an active town, and the response isn't likely to be small.

"This isn't a counterprotest," she said. "We wanted it to show support for the families and to show that Tucson is there with love and support."

They don't want to interfere with the funeral in any way, Cohen said.

"We plan on being completely silent, and we're asking people not to bring signs or make comments about the Westboro Baptist Church," she said.

The angels will be doing the same thing.

"We're going to silently stand there so people can mourn the death of a 9-year-old girl who died in a senseless tragedy," Gilmer said.

Cohen said several groups are planning to be at the funeral to show their support, and there is an effort afoot to bring them all together "into one group so we can all be on the same page."

"I hope that everyone there can convey the peaceful message that we want to convey, she said

And if the church pickets persist, the silent supporters will be on hand for the funerals of U.S. District Judge John Roll, Gabriel Zimmerman, Dorothy Morris, Dorwin Stoddard and Phyllis Schneck, the other five victims of Saturday's shooting. Giffords, who was shot in the head and is in critical condition, and 13 other people were wounded.

Westboro Baptist Church, founded by its spiritual leader, Fred Phelps, and run mostly by family members, did not respond to a request for an interview in time for this article. But a flier released by the church about the picket targets the Roman Catholic Church because Christina and her family were members.

"God hates Catholics!" the flier, posted on the church's "God Hates ****" website, says. "God calls your religion 'vain,' as it's empty of His truth; you worship idols!"
 
and people think Jared Loughner has a few screws loose...


https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime/group-to-picket-9group-to-picket-9-year-old-tucson-victims-1177921.html?cxtype=ynews_rss

Today, the self-proclaimed "church" posted this statement on their website:

(NOTE: This statement is republished as-is from the group's website.)

DAY #2 OF “THANK GOD FOR THE SHOOTER” – 6 DEAD! WBC WILL PICKET THEIR FUNERALS.

The 9-year-old girl was born 9/11/01! “Hear ye the rod, and who hath appointed it,” Mic. 6:9. God mercifully gave this nation a fair warning on 9/11 – but you despise His mercies, so you get no more mercy – man, woman or child. That’s how God the Avenger rolls!

That child was not innocent. This is a nation of depraved perverts who pass their children through the fire of their rage against God & all-consuming lust. From the womb, she was taught to hate God & mock His servants. That child is better off dead, so the cup of her iniquity will not overflow! Rep. Giffords passed laws trying to keep WBC watchers off the street corners. In repayment, God sent the shooter when she took to a street corner! The blood of the 9-year-old is on Rep. Giffords’ hands! This nation rejoiced & your officials were ho-hum when a violent veteran stalked 5 WBC picketers with 90 rounds of ammunition. In repayment, God sent the shooter with 90 rounds of ammunition & killed your federal judge, your child, & others. Now let’s see if you’re so ho-hum in the face of God’s wrath! The blood of these six dead is on your hands rebellious doomed-america! God’s judgments are so righteous & marvelous in our sight!

THANK GOD FOR HIS RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENTS!

reading their statement and knowing the actions they'll be allowed to take makes me seriously question my feelings towards free speech...
 
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Stone these dark age, zealot, bible thumpers. 2" diameter or less.
 
I think this kind of expression would be appropriate if their goal made any sense. I can't understand wtf they want, other than people to join their church. Because seriously, no one except for their group is "right in teh eyez of teh Lard."

I say **** em.
 
I missed the story that 5 WB"C" picketers were gunned down. Too bad, because I would have rejoiced.
 
I like the approach of those doing the angels, and showing support.
I do think the best way to counter this protest garbage is to show support, and love to the family as a shield.
I also think the protesters expect hate back at them, it makes them feel like they are right... so when people respond in a positive way like this, it will have the biggest impact on countering their hate message.

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I missed the story that 5 WB"C" picketers were gunned down. Too bad, because I would have rejoiced.

That's not very Christian, Greg. Jesus taught to turn a blind eye onto those that are wayward.
 
How are the Church of Scientology allowed to be exempt? It's garbage. No church should be allowed to be tax-exempt.
 
I like the intent, but giving Westboro attention is not the way to combat their antics. And Westboro needs to go to Rome, or maybe the Phoenix diocese to protest Catholicism if they want, and get away from the funeral scene entirely. It's just extremely poor form.
 
I like the intent, but giving Westboro attention is not the way to combat their antics. And Westboro needs to go to Rome, or maybe the Phoenix diocese to protest Catholicism if they want, and get away from the funeral scene entirely. It's just extremely poor form.

Poor form is just how they roll:

The WBC launched a website called Priests Rape Boys in which they criticize the Roman Catholic Church because of the Catholic sex abuse scandal, saying, "Every time any person gives any amount of money to the Catholic Church, that person is paying the salary of pedophile rapists."

^ right from their Wiki page
 
As an Atheist, I support this:

SOURCE

Tucson, Arizona (CNN) -- The Arizona Legislature is expected to pass legislation Tuesday that will bar protesters at funerals from getting within 300 feet of services, a spokesman for the state House said.
The action, according to House spokesman Daniel Scarpinato, is in direct response to a controversial church's announcement that it will picket the funeral of Christina Green, the 9-year-old who was among six people killed during Saturday's attempted assassination of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona.
Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas, has made its name by staging protests at funerals of people who died of AIDS, gay people, soldiers and even Coretta Scott King.
Tucson just isn't that kind of town, says Christin Gilmer, 26, referring to the actions of the church.
"For something like this to happen in Tucson was a really big shock to us all," she said. "Our nightmare happened when we saw Westboro Baptist Church was going to picket the funerals."
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In addition to the expected legislation, some Tucson residents are planning an "angel action" -- with 8- by 10-foot "angel wings" worn by participants to shield mourners from picketers. Angel actions were created by Coloradan Romaine Patterson, who was shocked to find the Topeka church and its neon signs outside the 1999 funeral of Matthew Shepard, a young gay man beaten and left on a fence to die in Laramie, Wyoming.
"We want to surround them, in a nonviolent way, to say that our community is united," Gilmer said, who is helping organize the action. "We're a peaceful haven."
Gilmer added, "You don't mess with Tucson," describing it as "a little dot of blue in a sea of red."
But political persuasions don't matter, she said. Republicans, Democrats, independents, right, left and center -- they've all offered their support. Forty-two people have signed up on a Facebook page called "Build Angel Wings for the Westboro Funeral Counter-Protest and Meeting," and more than 4,500 have signed up on another page to "Show Support for the Families of the Tucson Shooting Victims."
Jeff Rogers, chairman of the Pima County Democratic Party, said Tuesday that his organization as well as the local Republican Party also will ask people to line the funeral routes to form a barricade if the church follows through on its planned protest.
"People, businesses, they're all donating material and money to build the angel wings," Gilmer said, adding that people are giving to a fund to help pay for services for the shooting victims.
Chelsea Cohen, a 20-year-old senior at the University of Arizona who launched the "Show Support" Facebook page, said she never expected such a response.
"Once I heard that the Westboro Baptist Church was coming, I felt like something should be done to show support for the families," she said. "I don't have any experience in organizing these things. I thought I might get 50 to 100 people."
Cohen said she thinks many who signed up on the Facebook page will be there "in spirit" on Thursday when mourners gather for the funeral of Christina, who was born September 11, 2001. But she added that Tucson is an active town and the response isn't likely to be small.
"This isn't a counterprotest," she said. "We wanted it to show support for the families and to show that Tucson is there with love and support."
The groups don't want to interfere with the funeral in any way, Cohen said.
"We plan on being completely silent, and we're asking people not to bring signs or make comments about the Westboro Baptist Church," she said.
The angels will be doing the same thing.
"We're going to silently stand there so people can mourn the death of a 9-year-old girl who died in a senseless tragedy," Gilmer said.
Cohen said several groups are planning to be at the funeral to show their support, and there is an effort afoot to bring them all together "into one group so we can all be on the same page."
"I hope that everyone there can convey the peaceful message that we want to convey, she said
And if the church picketers persist, the silent supporters will be on hand for the funerals of U.S. District Judge John Roll, Gabriel Zimmerman, Dorothy Morris, Dorwin Stoddard and Phyllis Schneck, the other five victims of Saturday's shooting. Giffords, who was shot in the head and is in critical condition, and 13 other people were wounded.
Westboro Baptist Church, founded by its spiritual leader, Fred Phelps, and run mostly by family members, did not respond to a request for an interview in time for this article. But a flier released by the church about the picket targets the Roman Catholic Church because Christina and her family were members.
"God hates Catholics!" the flier, posted on the church's website, says. "God calls your religion 'vain,' as it's empty of His truth; you worship idols!"
CNN's Alyse Shorland and Kevin Bohn contributed to this report.
 
We had a similar situation in which we were assisting with the funeral of a fallen Afghan War vet. We got information that the wbc was planning on attending and a space was designated in the farthest corner of the cemetary shielded by trees for them to have their "look-at-us" moment. We then learned that a VFW Motorcycle Club was planning on attending as an honor guard. This particular VFW MC happens to attend soldiers funerals throughout the midwest, particularly those in which the wbc has shown an interest. They bring large American flags and shield the mourners from the hate the wbc mongers. Anyway, long story short the wbc cancelled its plan to attend. The VFW MC still arrived to show their support and it was one of the most awe-inspiring things I have ever witnessed. I told one of them (VFW MC members) that they have my support whenever they are back in the area.
 
The best way to counter this speech is to aloow it to occur as inoffensively as possible. I approve of the 300-foot limit, the angels, and the VFWMC.
 
I do think the best way to counter this protest garbage is to show support, and love to the family as a shield.

Wrong. Bury the ****ers up to their necks and hurl small stones at them for a while. You need **** from the bible to counter these thumptards.
 
I'm not sure if I find this to be a new low. I have felt, for a long time, that my opinion of this church could not get any lower, and I don't think it has. This is... mostly unsurprising.

They ought to keep their tax exempt status though. I think that's a good thing, in general, that helps a lot of churches do good. These nuts don't get to ruin it.
 
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