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Darft Jimmer Fredette.

Archie Moses said:
Skin color doesn't matter if you can play, guy.
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Buddy, the proof is in the pudding. The NBA and NFL is dominated by African Americans. Nothing wrong with it. Just the way it is. Deron, Paul, Rose, Westbrook, Felton......would eat Jimmer alive. No way he could play in the NBA.
 
NUMBERICA said:
What the hell are you talking about? He was a blur in the open court, he could sustain it 48 minutes, and he could burn you off the dribble. He played like that for over 10 years. What?
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Like I said, Stock was quicker than he was fast. You can burn by people if you're quick. With that being said, Stockton wasn't a blur you speak of. I bet at the time he played, Stockton couldn't beat half the starting PGs in the league in a coast to coast court race. Steve Nash is another guy who's quicker than he is fast, although I think Stockton was faster.
 
Beantown said:
Buddy, the proof is in the pudding. The NBA and NFL is dominated by African Americans. Nothing wrong with it. Just the way it is. Deron, Paul, Rose, Westbrook, Felton......would eat Jimmer alive. No way he could play in the NBA.
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What proof? Has Jimmer played in the NBA?
 
Archie Moses said:
Like I said, Stock was quicker than he was fast. You can burn by people if you're quick. With that being said, Stockton wasn't a blur you speak of. I bet at the time he played, Stockton couldn't beat half the starting PGs in the league in a coast to coast court race. Steve Nash is another guy who's quicker than he is fast, although I think Stockton was faster.
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So your point is that for all intents and purposes, Stockton had more speed than the people guarding him?
 
NUMBERICA said:
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So your point is that for all intents and purposes, Stockton had more speed than the people guarding him?
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No. My point is Stockton was quicker than he was fast. It's not hard for an NBA PG to get a step on his defender if you're quick, but it doesn't make you a "blur" or fast. Sorry dude, but Stockton wasn't the fastest guy. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise, guy.
 
Beantown said:
No it's because he is slow and not a good defender. He can shoot and that's it, so could Jaycee Carrol.
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Jaycee Carrol was never drafted and never played in the NBA. That's a poor comparison. Steve Nash is slow and he's not a good defender, he must suck too.
 
Archie Moses said:
No. My point is Stockton was quicker than he was fast. It's not hard for an NBA PG to get a step on his defender if you're quick, but it doesn't make you a "blur" or fast. Sorry dude, but Stockton wasn't the fastest guy. You're lying to yourself if you think otherwise, guy.
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Your point is trash and makes no practical sense. You just practically agreed with me. If Stockton - in game - is faster than the person guarding him and can stay in front of almost anyone, who ****ing cares if he can beat them in a x-distance race that isn't a game?
 
NUMBERICA said:
Your point is trash and makes no practical sense. You just practically agreed with me. If Stockton - in game - is faster than the person guarding him and can stay in front of almost anyone, who ****ing cares if he can beat them in a x-distance race that isn't a game?
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Dude, my point makes perfect sense, you just can't grasp it. Stockton isn't in a top tier of fast NBA players. Like I said, Steve Nash isn't that fast, but he's quick and deceptive. That's why he can beat people on the dribble a lot of the times, but not because he's faster than them.
 
Beantown said:
He's probably one of the fastest guards still. Did you never watch the Dantoni Suns teams? Please tell me your Nash is slow statement is a joke.
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Nash, as of the past 4 or so years has definitely slowed down, but he doesn't need to be fast. He's deceptive, quick and long-winded. When he first came into the league, I couldn't tell you how fast he was, cause I never saw him. But I doubt he was lightning fast, guy.
 
Archie Moses said:
Nash, as of the past 4 or so years has definitely slowed down, but he doesn't need to be fast. He's deceptive, quick and long-winded. When he first came into the league, I couldn't tell you how fast he was, cause I never saw him. But I doubt he was lightning fast, guy.
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He is and was quick/fast. Back to Jimmer. His problem is he's a one trick pony. He can shoot. His ceiling is JJ Redick. But even so Redick was a far superior college player.
 
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