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VINYLONE said:
Simply incredible. I mean, is it any wonder really?
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Nope, we know we'll keep milkin' Sloan 'til he gets the most NBA victories of all-time and fawn over him like he's a God. A God with zero ****ing rings.

I said for two straight years we needed to hire Thibodeau and it's no surprise that the team that hired him, the Bulls, have taken a leap this year. Sure they acquired Boozer but it's Thibodeau's defense who's ranked first in field goal percentage (42.3%) and third in points allowed (92.34) that's been the different maker.
 
Its a sad situation really. There are options out there as far as coaching goes, it's just that a certain segment of fans are scared.
 
YB85 said:
Then there is Al Jefferson. I was excited when I heard the Jazz acquired him for next to nothing and had visions of him being our Gasol, the guy that other teams bitch about because he didn't cost the Jazz anything. Instead, he has become our Zach Randolph, a guy who has no concept of what it takes to win in the NBA but can pad a statsheet, except Randolph gets rebounds and sometimes shows toughness. I will admit that I didn't spend much time watching Al Jefferson play in Boston or Minnesota, but I can now understand why his teams sucked. He needs to figure out how to adapt to the Jazz offense rather than stopping the Jazz offense and he needs to figure it out now.
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I'm a day late on this, but this was always my question about Al Jefferson. The Jazz passed on him in the draft, and his stats always looked good and it seemed like they had really missed on him, but his teams did nothing. Like many players, I wondered if he was just a stat guy, but not a winner.

I was still excited when the Jazz got him for nothing (except Koufos, so actually less than nothing), but so far, I continue to question his overall team contribution. I'm not saying he can't ever come around, but just like the past, I'm still wondering what he COULD be besides a nice low post player and POTENTIAL all-star.
 
VINYLONE said:
Simply incredible. I mean, is it any wonder really?
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Teams have ALWAYS known what the Jazz' plays are. In the Stockalone days, you'd hear players say you what they are going to run, but you just can't stop it. What's changed from that now (aside from no Stockalone) is execution.
 
Geez I really don't see what all the hate on Al is for. The guy is the only defensive presence in the middle that we have. He has been playing consistent the past 10 games or so. In my honest opinion. I think either Al or Sap has to come off the bench. It seems to me that there isn't enough spacing when the two of them are either posting or trying to run the pick and roll and with Sap being so inconsistent of late I would think it should be him.
 
LogGrad98 said:
There is no better testament that you are a Bozzer fan and not a Jazz fan than that post.

Submit, Sloanfield.
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That is quite possibly the dumbest Jazzfanz logic I've ever seen.

Nonetheless, I'll still be here reminding you and all the Boozer haters that you are wrong, ALL THE TIME.
 
There is a fine line between being patient, waiting for a group to gel, a starting lineup to find its groove, and just being a complacent idiot who is either unwilling or unable to make a change to keep the team competitive. Players play the game, but Sloan needs to realize what he's doing isn't working, make a damn adjustment, anything...

I think people underestimate how much the loss of Korver, and really Memo, have affected this team. Deron can shoot the three, CJ can shoot the three, that's about it...
 
Also, I liked the idea of Raja, but he hasn't been producing, give the kid the start for 5 more games and see what we have. What the hell do we have to lose? Raja isn't going to get any better.
 
dantheman said:
There is a fine line between being patient, waiting for a group to gel, a starting lineup to find its groove, and just being a complacent idiot who is either unwilling or unable to make a change to keep the team competitive. Players play the game, but Sloan needs to realize what he's doing isn't working, make a damn adjustment, anything...

I think people underestimate how much the loss of Korver, and really Memo, have affected this team. Deron can shoot the three, CJ can shoot the three, that's about it...
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You make sense. Unfortunately, sense is not a valued commodity in this board.
 
I really think Okur's return has something to do with how this team is playing now. Something got broken inside.
 
Sloanfeld said:
That is quite possibly the dumbest Jazzfanz logic I've ever seen.

Nonetheless, I'll still be here reminding you and all the Boozer haters that you are wrong, ALL THE TIME.
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Then post something besides the same Booz rhetoric over and over to remind people of that.
 
Root, are you still upset because you got kicked out of the ESA on Nite Out. I didnt rat you out if thats what you think. I didnt have a problem with your vulgarity and amateur antics while intoxicated.
 
LogGrad98 said:
For those of us not familiar with these stats can you provide an explanation or brief synopsis. Or for those of use too lazy to click on the link and read.

Thank you.
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The Jazz are a better offensive and (much better) defensive team when Jefferson's on the bench (the difference is mammoth, to the tune of a -14.3 points-per-100-possessions difference).

To be fair, this stat is purely team-based. Deron Williams number is poor as well, but there are things to remember;
1) The starting lineup has done a horrendous job to start games, anyone in the starting lineup's +/- is going to suffer for that reason alone.
2) Deron Williams destroys his opponent and holds them to under the league average of production. His defensive role is to guard his assignment, not to be the keystone in a team defensive scheme. Jefferson's is, and despite some nice performances and some inflated block #s, he's not doing a good job.
3) Jefferson has the second worst on/off court net +/- next to Bell. Whoever shares the court with either of those players, their +/- is going to suffer.

At least Jefferson tries, I guess.
 
Sloanfeld said:
That is quite possibly the dumbest Jazzfanz logic I've ever seen.

Nonetheless, I'll still be here reminding you and all the Boozer haters that you are wrong, ALL THE TIME.
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If you could read what you posted without your Bozzer-lover glasses on you would be able to think logically about the issue.



Well ok probably not...but thanks for playing!
 
NUMBERICA said:
The Jazz are a better offensive and (much better) defensive team when Jefferson's on the bench (the difference is mammoth, to the tune of a -14.3 points-per-100-possessions difference).

To be fair, this stat is purely team-based. Deron Williams number is poor as well, but there are things to remember;
1) The starting lineup has done a horrendous job to start games, anyone in the starting lineup's +/- is going to suffer for that reason alone.
2) Deron Williams destroys his opponent and holds them to under the league average of production. His defensive role is to guard his assignment, not to be the keystone in a team defensive scheme. Jefferson's is, and despite some nice performances and some inflated block #s, he's not doing a good job.
3) Jefferson has the second worst on/off court net +/- next to Bell. Whoever shares the court with either of those players, their +/- is going to suffer.

At least Jefferson tries, I guess.
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Thank you, that clears it up. I think he does try, and that right there separates him from Bozzer, really.



Also tried to rep but got this:

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.
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Some of these rep settings need to be changed IMO.
 
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