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He put up plenty of them in Utah. Surprised so many are all shocked he would do it in OKC. Lol. Lol.
Kanter traded to OKC
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He put up plenty of them in Utah. Surprised so many are all shocked he would do it in OKC. Lol. Lol.
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He still is the suck.
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Btw he was credited for a bucket when he never touched the ball. So his line really looked like this 3-8. 2-6 from FT, 8 points 13 rebounds, 2 assists. And some on here are like ohhhh noes kanter is the killa.
mcgary will eventually beat out kanter down the road. big difference between the 2 - basketball IQ. but for now, kanter is in a good situation. watch out for okc.
b_line
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I mean, he out performed Jeremy evans...
The Thriller
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Because it was his first game there. Typically it takes a few weeks for a guy to settle in. But he's already doing his thing. Of course, it helps to have Adams and KD out.
I think Kanter is goign to end up getting the same minutes. I think if he plays well enough in this stretch you are going to see them going to a 3 man big rotation with Adams/Kanter/Ibaka. Collison is a smart vet, but he sucks and they should be looking to cut his minutes if Kanter is playing well. I could see Kanter being exposed in the PO though.
addictionary
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Fabtrey. Long time no see my fellow mj fan.
CAKAR
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Jazz FO made a big mistake with evaluating Kanter as a player. This guy is a Center, he can not defend PF in this league. I think it was a huge experience for him guarding them, but at "analytics" he looked worse than he was guarding players that are quick and have very good shooting ability. He sucks at defending the pick and roll, but almost every Big has his problems with that. Thats the reason why you play pick and roll... Defending them with Burke against a PF who is much quicker just makes it worse...
The Jazz FO estimated the 2013/2014 season wrongly. Kanter really sucked at defending the post against Centers, but that because he lost his physical strenght after surgery. When I remeber this year Kanter played great D against Cousins, last year Cousins was bumping Kanter away like he was a snitch. This year he was not able to move him away...
Master AL vs Darth Kanter:
In the first half Al really was great scoring the ball, he was doing it at will. Kanter was defending hard but AL finished with 4/5 shooting defended by Kanter. In the second half Kanter played great defense on Al and he was able to shut him down... Al is the best scoring big in the league and we all know how great he is at scoring in clutch time. But in the second half he was 2/8 defended by Kanter...
I think that Kanter has good potential as a post defender, especially if he is bulking up again.
The Jazz FO estimated the 2013/2014 season wrongly. Kanter really sucked at defending the post against Centers, but that because he lost his physical strenght after surgery. When I remeber this year Kanter played great D against Cousins, last year Cousins was bumping Kanter away like he was a snitch. This year he was not able to move him away...
Master AL vs Darth Kanter:
In the first half Al really was great scoring the ball, he was doing it at will. Kanter was defending hard but AL finished with 4/5 shooting defended by Kanter. In the second half Kanter played great defense on Al and he was able to shut him down... Al is the best scoring big in the league and we all know how great he is at scoring in clutch time. But in the second half he was 2/8 defended by Kanter...
I think that Kanter has good potential as a post defender, especially if he is bulking up again.
This could just as easily read; "Jazz FO made a big mistake with evaluating Kanter as a player. Thus guy is a PF, he can not defend C in this league."
He can defend neither.
J
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He has playes surprisingly good D over the last month. He did awesome agaisnt Dirk. He is a decent defender, just not a shot blocker.
Good to see you back bro.
I've had it with Kanter's empty stats. Scores 2 at one end, gives up 2 at the other. Nice rebound, only to turn it over or not pass out.
If it doesn't translate to wins on the board, it's useless to me.
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Lucky he is not our problem anymore
addictionary
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I'm positive he will prove you wrong as time unfolds.
I've been a supporter of his longer than anyone on this site.. well, at least going back to pre-draft.. but I have also called it like I see it. He isn't now, nor will ever be, a starting C or PF on a contending team, because his defense is too weak.
addictionary
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Yeah of course. But I need some time to check his defense in that OKC team because I think he is a decent defender at post, pick and roll and man to man but just sucks at it for other reasons than talent. Defense is not only hustle it's also prediction of your opponent's movement. I thought he might be playing bad because of his felt pressure of expectations from the team he was drafted high by. So going somewhere else might clear a lot of **** up if my suspicion comes up true. Wouldn't hurt to look for a few more sparks to light up the Enes excitement.
Kanter isn't a "bad" player, he just is an old fashioned back to the basket bruiser with good offensive abilities. In the old pre zone days he could have been trained to be a decent enough man to man defender, but the problem is that in a no Hand check / Zone defense / 3Pt focus type of era, his slow feet and limited help defense abilities become a massive problem if the rest of the team defense doesn't mitigate that : Put him in Chicago like Boozer and would have done great without damaging too much the defense. Put him on a naive and young Jazz team with average to poor team defenders, and it doesn't work, he would have to be offensively dominant to compensate, and he isn't that, at least not yet.
My point is that he could very well become a very good contributing player in the right team. Maybe not 3rd pick worth, but very good. Problem was it wasn't going to happen in Utah and the possibility that Gobert gives this team were so much better that the choice was all clear to all. Kanter's strong arming the FO into a trade was good thinking on his part, and sucked for the FO, but there wasn't much to be done.
My point is that he could very well become a very good contributing player in the right team. Maybe not 3rd pick worth, but very good. Problem was it wasn't going to happen in Utah and the possibility that Gobert gives this team were so much better that the choice was all clear to all. Kanter's strong arming the FO into a trade was good thinking on his part, and sucked for the FO, but there wasn't much to be done.
I would like to hear why you believe they are empty stats as what stated is not good enough. What is important is that he actually does get the points when he takes a shot as his defence is concerned he is just average and has continued to improve every year and seems to be targeted due to not getting enough blocks which is pointless as blocks tends to give the possession back to the opposing team and does not mean that the player is good at defence just because he gets blocks more often. If you watch him play he does go infront of opposing player and tries to make it more difficult which equate to missed shots. Most Jazz fans seem to forget they are rebuilding and are looking for a escape goat for losing when rebuilding which is insane. The reason he was pissed off and asked for a trade was because he wanted to continue to play and cited that he did not have an eye injury, which was the reason given to why he was subbed off. Also it is delusional to think he would not pass in Oklahoma due to the fact he did not in Utah as apart from Hayward is there any other options. I would like to see which player would be next in the firing line as people forget these are young players.. hopefully there would not be any other players mishandled as the team was slowly starting to gel.
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