Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Ya sure, if I had been able to look into the future I would’ve rooted for two more wins.Well if we won more games maybe we win the lottery like the two teams above us, who won more games.
Ya sure, if I had been able to look into the future I would’ve rooted for two more wins.Well if we won more games maybe we win the lottery like the two teams above us, who won more games.
NoKnowing the Jazz, they'll convey next year and give OKC another cornerstone player and all it cost us was them taking Favors off our hands.
Well it’s more than just Flagg next year. So it’s not like we need just one result… that’s what I’m saying. Lower odds make it possible to avoid being a full joke like Philly was back in the day and still maximize your shot at a top 4 pick… or get close to it. With Lauri you will risk having to do the dance to get to 8/9 or losing the pick. I get that being the worst team isn’t as profitable… but being 3,4,5 worst is a solid proposition still.
Chance at a home run but ending up grounding to third for a 5-4-3 double play to retire the side. Ainge hangs it up, realizing he’d rather be on the golf course.Next years draft is about more than Flagg. Get a top 5 pick and you have a pretty good chance at a home run.
The protected pick is huge. That’s our at bat to hit a home run to go with Lauri. I get in 2025 we have two other picks but those are like 60-70% chance to be 17-30 type picks. The 10-14 range has been really fruitful.I just mentioned Flagg because he considered a sure thing, generational type prospect. There are not 5 guys like that. Flagg is different so we should talk about the likelihood of getting that guy is who is different.
And you still have odds to get those other guys. Like I said, the point is the same. No matter how you slice it the benefit of bottoming out is significantly worse than it was and you have to account for that.
The protected pick dance is such a small consideration when talking about moving a 100% star player like Lauri. Like im not trading Lauri because of the outside chance I might lose a pick between 11-14. By trading Lauri you lose your chance to pair your potential home run….that is the hypothetical consideration that’s going to carry the weight.
I’m only trading Lauri if I actually believe it’s going to increase my chances of having a 2-3+ star team. Given that Lauri is 100% one of those guys and bottoming out is so much worse, it’s a tough decision.
But like I said earlier, going forward and trying to win just isn’t an option right now. It’s tank with Lauri or tank without him.
Is that bad? You don’t seem like an Ainge fan.Chance at a home run but ending up grounding to third for a 5-4-3 double play to retire the side. Ainge hangs it up, realizing he’d rather be on the golf course.
You know it to be true.
The protected pick is huge. That’s our at bat to hit a home run to go with Lauri. I get in 2025 we have two other picks but those are like 60-70% chance to be 17-30 type picks. The 10-14 range has been really fruitful.
Flagg is awesome but some see Ace Bailey as a better prospect. The next 3-4 guys I think are a tier below those two for now but all would be the best pick in this draft. 2026 is another banger.
Keeping Lauri and hoping to pair him with a guy drafted in 2025… let’s say the 2025 dude is a star and takes a year to get there. So Lauri is 29 and making his first playoff run? Just seems like a short window where those two would be “stars”.
Just think our chance to line up two stars in similar windows is to trade one and give yourself a legit shot at a couple top 5 picks. The silver and bronze medals the next couple years are pretty nice.
I keep trying to tell myself that but at this point I'm convinced Jazz are lottery cursed. Funny thing to is the hockey team Utah just acquired has the same lottery luck. Exact same.Well, at least I didn't lose sleep over this. It was a terrible year to be top 4 anyway. Maybe our luck is actually 2025.
Oh I’m for sure thinking about losing the pick and having that as a factor in the Lauri trade. What do you mean we just got that pick twice and the team is way worse. Like yeah we got Hendricks as a rookie… that’s not why we were way worse. 10-14 is a really rich draft area. It’d be pretty foolish not to factor that in… it is not the sole factor though.There is a zero chance I’m deciding Lauri’s future on the basis of potentially losing 10-14. Like we just secured it twice in a row with him and now the team is wayyy worse. I’m not thinking about that.
I definitely don’t think Lauri is too old to play with potential home run. But the thing about keeping Lauri is you can always trade him. That’s why I’ve always said that having the star is the power position. You can always trade them. You cannot always trade for one, and there’s definitely no guarantee you draft one.
Lauri for Smith, 3, and the Brooklyn 2026 is the trade I suggested and it’s what I’d want as the minimum deal for Lauri. #3 this year is good but it’s not good enough and Smith has been disappointing but fine… I think that pick is moved.Reports are the rockets are going to be shopping the 3rd pick and are looking to add a vet. I don't know if they would do it but I would love to do Lauri for Jabari Smith and that pick to snag Buzelis.
I'm all for trying to pry away more picks or swaps but I would do Smith and 3 for Lauri if it came down to it. Keeping Lauri makes no sense to me at this point with the way the west is shaping up right now. If we try to be more competitive I don't see a path to be better than the thunder, griz, rockets and spurs. Yesterday went perfect for the rockets and spurs with the rockets gaining value with their pick and the spurs getting the raptors as well. The spurs are now in the ideal position because they have that high upside youth around Wemby with the 2 top 10 picks so I would expect them to be aggressive in free agency to bring in solid role players.Lauri for Smith, 3, and the Brooklyn 2026 is the trade I suggested and it’s what I’d want as the minimum deal for Lauri. #3 this year is good but it’s not good enough and Smith has been disappointing but fine… I think that pick is moved.
That 2026 Brooklyn pick is really valuable imo. I want it almost as much as I want #3. Maybe Brooklyn gets Donny and things change but we don’t have extra picks in 2026 so adding another in that draft works great for me.I'm all for trying to pry away more picks or swaps but I would do Smith and 3 for Lauri if it came down to it. Keeping Lauri makes no sense to me at this point with the way the west is shaping up right now. If we try to be more competitive I don't see a path to be better than the thunder, griz, rockets and spurs. Yesterday went perfect for the rockets and spurs with the rockets gaining value with their pick and the spurs getting the raptors as well. The spurs are now in the ideal position because they have that high upside youth around Wemby with the 2 top 10 picks so I would expect them to be aggressive in free agency to bring in solid role players.