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2024 NBA Draft Mega Thread
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I suppose you could do that kind of weird stuff with the pick. I imagine the Lakers would keep it a top 1 protected pick for the Jazz and do the Bronny deal with us.
Why does the Jazz owning the rest of the outcomes mean they want 1-4 more? It’s the same no matter who it goes to.
I never said a team would value it more than the Jazz, I said it doesn’t matter.
Because not having 1-4 limits the upside of the pick. The Lakers could end up 5-10 and jump into the top-4 and we don’t get to keep it.
Feels like Salaun could be this years Bilal. Meteoric rise into the top-10.
But that upside is there for any team who acquires that 1-4 outcome. Again, it doesn’t matter who it goes to you’re they’re buying the same thing.
The Jazz can package it more convincly in another trade if they get all the outcomes. The value goes up. But another team would not like the pick whole heartedly if there is a 24% chance it is not there. Or conversely a team may not want the 1-4 spots if there is a 76% chance that the Jazz get it. It gets all risky and weird but I suppose the Lakers can do some crazy unusual moves.
homeytennis
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He also led the NCAA in rebounding. I know the league he was playing in was pure $*(^, but still that is a nice accomplishment.
Dude if you can’t understand why we would want it more than any other team I really don’t know what to tell you lol.
Whatever more a team is willing to pay for unprotected vs protected 1-4….that is what they are willing to pay for 1-4 alone.
The Jazz traded for the first knowing it might not be there.
Well if you don’t have a reason why, I suppose you don’t have anything to tell me. That’s fine.
I can imagine the discussions. Yes we will trade you Gianniss for the top 4 position of the 2027 pick. If we are really bad in the lottery you have a 26% chance. If we are barely in the lottery you have 3% chance. But more likely we are in the playoffs and you have a 0% chance at it.
While it "could" be done with another team. It would be on the level of NBA alt-coin crypto. But again picking Bronny with a second rounder kinds of matches that thinking too. So yeah..maybe.
There is an obvious reason. Not sure why you’re being so weird about this. It solidifies the asset not only for us but as a trade asset going forward.
It’s really not any different than a protected pick the other way IMO. Like I said, the Jazz traded for a pick with a certain chance they don’t get it. I wouldn’t call it NBA crypto, I would just call it a protected pic.
You’re paying for a certain set of outcomes. When you buy/sell a certain outcome, it does not really matter who owns the other outcomes.
stormkoopacv03
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My prediction for Bronny is, if he doesn't go first round he'll ask his agent to inform all teams that he is not available to draft in the 2nd round. This way, he can dictate where to go after the draft, probably the Lakers. Undrafted players have done this in the past, and it worked out for them.
I wonder which team would rather own the rights to 1-4 in 2027…
Team A who doesn’t own anything related to the picks
Or
Team B who owns 5-30 in 2027
Really can’t decide
Team A who doesn’t own anything related to the picks
Or
Team B who owns 5-30 in 2027
Really can’t decide
Ok yeah I can see it as a low cost move for another team if they don't value the 2nd rounder doing it. But then again the Jazz are near the front of the line on the second round. I don't think the Lakers would want Bronny on a first. Also, it becomes kind of joke for another team trade - they would have to believe that it would happen in 2027 and they are going have it exercised. I only see OKC doing something so slow and calculated. Maybe Philly or Memphis.
But I could see the Jazz trading Clarkson to remove the protections because it doubles the value of the pick from the Jazz point of view even though it is small chance, it wholly and completely an unprotected undebatably the most valuable draft capital. But another team would calculate that it is 1 to 10% chance happening and would not want to lose their six man for no value - I don't see the Lakers easily convincing other teams as we could be convinced
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I don’t see how you get extra value for solidifying or completing the asset. Would you give up better odds in order to have worse odds from the Lakers? I would not. There is no bonus multiplier for having 100% of the outcomes.
What do you mean better odds?