Following Potential 2025 Draftees
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Tbh, I actually think the actual decision is pretty clear at every pick except for #4. Ainge is gonna take Ace at #3 no doubt, and I think he would take the remaining blue chip at #5. We will all have our own opinions of course, but that is what I would expect from Ainge.
#3 would be the most fun pick for the debates.
Basketball Novice
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I'm not sure if this has been discussed but if the pick drops to #4 or #5, would Queen be a consideration? The offensive hub potential would be hard to pass up even if there are some deficiencies to his game. Guys like Ace and VJ seem to be more complementary players, but I might be underestimating them to an extent. The rotation would be messy trying to fit Queen in but the offensive talent and skill might be worth it.
David Hume
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Exactly. I created a thread about that scenario a while back and it sparked debate.
Who let you out? We don’t like you, go away. Someone get him back down in his hole.
I think (and hope) you’re right. Get Ace to play more disciplined and off-ball and it’s easy to see him excel pretty much out of the gate.
Ace + Harper
Harper
USG - 28.4
eFG% - 54.0
AST% - 26.8
3Pr - 37.2
3FG% - 34.8
Ace
USG - 23.8
eFG% - 52.9
AST% - 8.3
3Pr - 30.1
3FG% - 36.8
Ace Only
USG - 33.1
eFG% - 48.4
AST% - 6.9
3Pr - 32.2
3FG% - 30.6
Harper Only
USG - 32.9
eFG% - 55.9
AST% - 39.4
3Pr - 38.6
3FG% - 28.2
Harper
USG - 28.4
eFG% - 54.0
AST% - 26.8
3Pr - 37.2
3FG% - 34.8
Ace
USG - 23.8
eFG% - 52.9
AST% - 8.3
3Pr - 30.1
3FG% - 36.8
Ace Only
USG - 33.1
eFG% - 48.4
AST% - 6.9
3Pr - 32.2
3FG% - 30.6
Harper Only
USG - 32.9
eFG% - 55.9
AST% - 39.4
3Pr - 38.6
3FG% - 28.2
What is “3Pr”?
3-point rate
Wow that AST% by Harper without Ace is insane
seattlejazzfan
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it's a little strange, but certainly not a big deal, that you included assist%, but not rebound% or block%.
The more tape I watch of Kasparas the more I see Tyler Herro upside. His shooting percentage from 3 doesn't match his shooting stroke so I expect that to rise to the high 30% range over the next few years. His passing chops are a little above Herro so I think he could be more of a main hub facilitator. Once workouts happen he will probably lock into that 5 to 8 range for this draft but if for some reason he drops I would do my best to move into the late lotto to grab him.
Those are things that I would find to be the same whether they are on the court solo or duo. Like I'm not that interested in seeing if Ace blocks more shots with Harper or on the court or not, doesn't seem that relevant to me. But feel free to look up or post the numbers if you do find it relevant.
I had to double check that, and it's actually only 23.5....so my bad. Anyways, the thing I found most interesting about Harper w/o Ace is that while his usage goes up (as you would expect), his efficiency remains high and this is despite not shooting the 3 ball great. When the sample size is this small, a random hot streak or cold streak can make an outsized impact. But Harper had the bad shooting with the high efficiency, so he was an absolute beast outside of shooting.
Traore with 17 and 7 on good efficiency today. Now that NCAA is over, I guess I'll start paying a little more attention to international guys.
I spent about 15 minutes trying to figure out how to watch LNB A games this morning, but couldn't figure it out. I almost bought a subscription that said they had a lot of the European leagues, but it wasn't clear exactly which ones.
Is anybody watching these international guys, and if so how?
I spent about 15 minutes trying to figure out how to watch LNB A games this morning, but couldn't figure it out. I almost bought a subscription that said they had a lot of the European leagues, but it wasn't clear exactly which ones.
Is anybody watching these international guys, and if so how?
seattlejazzfan
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that make sense. probably makes more sense to just include Harper's assist percentage with and without Ace - rather than Ace's as well as then it looks more like a comparison. between the two players - one a PG whose job it is to faciliate and dish and one a wing whose job it is to score.