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    The value of finishing in the bottom 5

    That all makes total sense and I agree with you reasoning. But. It is very hard to predict the long-term development arc of 18 year-olds. GMs and fans get it reliable wrong every year. There will be players that keep getting injured and their development will be permanently wrecked (Exum...
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    The value of finishing in the bottom 5

    Oh yeah, "this time is different!" There is simply no precedent for all top 5 draftees to turn-out into consistent high-impact players if you look at the draft history. And I am talking about top 5 drafted in June, not who was considered the top-5 in March. Just to illustrate, here are the...
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    Game Thread Mar 02, 2025 06:00PM MT: New Orleans Pelicans @ Utah Jazz

    He is exactly the same player as the last season. The stats per 36: 2023-24 - 17.3 points, 39.1% FG, 33.4% 3PT, 84.8% FT, 3.8 RB, 5.9 AST, 0.6 STL, 3.3 TO 2024-25 - 19.2 points, 39.7% FG, 34.6% 3PT, 80.1% FT, 4.3 RB, 6.8 AST, 0.8 STL, 3.2 TO ...and his defense is still one of the worst in the...
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    My idea on how to fix lottery/tanking

    You still do not understand the main flaw in your proposed system. The current draft system gradually decreases the draft odds so that in general the teams have no strong incentives to drop 1 or 2 places down. Your system creates crazy incentives to drop down from one group to another. Teams...
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    My idea on how to fix lottery/tanking

    So, would you be happy then that once you system is implemented and the Jazz have their 1st pick r scheduled and the upcoming player is Flagg he is saying "You know what? I will stay in college one more year because next year it is the Lakers who have the number 1 pick. I will go to LA and make...
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    My idea on how to fix lottery/tanking

    If you are the team number 9 then dropping just one place down all of a sudden gives you BETTER chances at the top 3 picks then the team with the 4rd worst record under the current system (12.5% for the 1st pick, 12.5% for the second pick, 12.5% for the third pick). . And the current system is...
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    Do you even watch the games? Keyonte posted these nice looking splits in February AFTER he was moved to the bench so that he does not share the court with Collier.
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    My idea on how to fix lottery/tanking

    You simply shifted the ground zero of tanking up a bit. The worst tanking would be done by teams in the current Portland-Bulls-Nets tier: everyone will be dropping the games like crazy to secure the worst 6/7 record. And, of course, the teams below them would do some moderate tanking as well so...
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    Keyonte George Hype & Appreciation Thread

    Dude, Keyonte is consistently one of the worst defensive players in the league both by advanced metrics and the eye test. That is the main knock on him, and not his offensive capabilities. You can say a lot about PG but he at least defends.
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    Game Thread Feb 22, 2025 07:30PM MT: Houston Rockets @ Utah Jazz

    Well, to be honest, it has to do as much with the situation at the Jazz as with his skill. Collier had the luck to land at the team that has no point guards whatsoever and does not care about the wins so the Jazz are happy to give him all the development minutes in the world. On any semi-decent...
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    Game Thread Feb 22, 2025 07:30PM MT: Houston Rockets @ Utah Jazz

    I liked it that when Keyonte fell on offense and was happily watching the continuation of the play while sitting Collier just grabbed him by the hand and dragged him back on his feet. "Get back in the game!"
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    2024-2025 Tank Race

    That's unlikely. Toronto just happened to have recently a stretch of games against the best teams in the league and racked up losses. But now it is over and will start winning again. The Jazz will finish in the 3rd or 4th place.
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    Game Thread Feb 22, 2025 07:30PM MT: Houston Rockets @ Utah Jazz

    He had 6 rebounds: that is the season and career-high for him. He was so much more explosive and always ended up right next to the ball. Good to see.
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    The Lauri Thread

    Eh, you are just repeating the Jazz PR they put up following the somewhat disappointing performance by Lauri this year. When the star players are trying to expands their offensive bag they are usually doing what they have been doing before plus adding some new stuff: their FG% may go down a bit...
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    The Lauri Thread

    Just for the context, here is the comparison of Lauri's stats this season vs his second year with Chicago (from ESPN): 2018-2019 - 32 MPG: 19 PPG, 9 RPG, 1.4 APG, 0.6 BPG. 43% FG, 36% 3P, 87% FT. Distribution of shots: 15 FGA (including 6 3-point FGA), 4 FTA. 2024-2025 - 32 MPG: 19 PPG, 6...
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    The Lauri Thread

    This is nothing new and goes back to his Chicago days. I mean, he has clearly grown as a player since then but his inconsistency, the overreliance on the 3-pointers and the frequent lack of assertiveness have defined him as a player for a long time. You can find many descriptions of his play in...
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    Utah Jazz have lost 44% of its viewership since a year ago.

    Is it surprising though? Even on this site game threads routinely end up being only 3-4 page long, while the topics about tanking and draft are bursting with activity. Even "so-not-casual" Jazz fans on this site stopped watching and discussing the Jazz basketball.
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    Game Thread Feb 21, 2025 07:30PM MT: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Utah Jazz

    Yeah, but what about the Jazz fans who got tickets to the games? For example, the Jazz fans in the DC area have a chance to watch their favorite team just once a year. I am not sure they are that excited to be treated by watching Micah Potter, Cody and a random guy Ainge picked up in a Home...
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    Game Thread Feb 21, 2025 07:30PM MT: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Utah Jazz

    I bet Collins, Markkanen and Kessler will all be good and healthy for tomorrow and the game against Houston. But we are soon having a stretch of games against the Pelicans, Detroit, Washington, Toronto and Philadelphia and I am afraid for the health and safety of our best players going into it.
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    You had him in the top-5 throughout November and your "some water" was not being ready to move him in the top-3 yet.
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