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    How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

    A few prospects?! Literally ALL MVPs in the last 10 years came outside of top-10 in the draft. And here is the number one picks in 2011-2020 (those that are still in the league and had enough time to pan out): Irving, AD, Bennett, Wiggins, KAT, Simmons, Fultz, Ayton, Zion, Edwards. Do you see...
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    How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

    Th The current top-3 players in the NBA are Jokic (drafted 41st), Giannis (15th), and SGA (11th). That is all you need to know about the reliability of conventional wisdom on draft prospects. Out of 10 last MVP winners there was not a single player drafted first or second: two winners were...
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    Collier’s Future

    One thing that does not get mentioned much is Collier's demeanor. He is very level-headed and confident. He does not get carried away and start showboating, he is cool under pressure and does not get easily upset by his own mistakes or the errors of his teammates. This is a very good quality for...
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    How long does a SUCCESSFUL tank need to be?

    You pretend that you know who is a franchise-level prospect and who is not - but you don't. Nobody knows. Otherwise James Wiseman and Deandre Ayton would not be have been drafted in the top-2, while Jalen Brunson and Jokic were passed by every single team in the first round.
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    Well, you are actually is making my case here: it is exactly what is happening with Lauri this year: "almost any NBA player can guard him if the team they are playing just decides to shut him down". He is putting big numbers in the regular season on a bad team since there is little resistance...
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    You can find that kind of players for way less than the max. You just described someone like Grayson Allen or Deni Avdija. Both of them make 15 million per year.
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    First, regardless if the team is getting better or worse the star players on the team continue play like star players. Meanwhile Lauri during the clutch time simply disappears: he is not scoring, not rebounding and not passing. And when he is scoring, he is simply horrendous: 4th on the team in...
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    Everything that you said could be said about almost every other star players. All of them get planned against and focused on, many of them are on bad teams and/or playing sporadically. But you know what? They deliver in the clutch: that comes along with being a star and the leader of your team...
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    Also, this was probably the best game played by Filipowski. He played with toughness, energy and skill.
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    Game Thread Feb 07, 2025 08:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

    When the Jazz desperately needed points they went to their star, Markkanen, and time after time he was unable to create good shots or make a good pass time. Just wasted possessions. This is the preview of future playoffs. When you are a star you are supposed to power your team in those...
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    SA and Flagg

    But why? The team with Flagg, Wemby and Fox would be so much fun to watch for everyone who loves basketball. And I am sure Flagg would LOVE being part of that team. Good for Flagg, good for the NBA fans. I don't think we should derive pleasure from forcing players to Utah if they really do...
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    Jimmy Butler to Golden State in Five-Team Deal involving Utah

    So, this is the fourth trade for the Jazz at the trade deadline. Is it the NBA record?
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    2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

    And do you have the tentative reasonable timeline of when the team will try to compete under this scenario? Say, the Jazz draft their centerpiece in 2026 and begin drafting future kesslers and sextons in 2027-29. It will take 2-3 years for all of those young players to develop, so the Jazz can...
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    2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

    S So that after you hit that homerun you start swinging with your picks to fill out the roster with quality role players like Kessler?
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    2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

    Are people here just embracing the idea of the eternal tank? Draft, develop and trade 2-3 years later? Agbaji and Fontecchio last year, Kessler - this year, Hendricks and Keyonte - next season... What is the end goal of that?
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    Dallas trading Luka to the Lakers for Anthony Davis! Utah involved.

    Why is everybody so eager to trade away Kessler? Walter is a good young center on a cheap contract who likes being in SLC and gets along with everyone. Who is the Jazz going to roll with at the center going forward? A pricey veteran? Someone they will draft next year and hope that in several...
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    Dallas trading Luka to the Lakers for Anthony Davis! Utah involved.

    Lauri as a player is a perfect third option for every team in the NBA. Lauri as a max player though, is a perfect third option for almost nobody. Except for a rare team that has a star still on the rookie contract, which includes exactly 3 teams: the Spurs, Magic and OKC.
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    Game Thread Jan 30, 2025 07:00PM MT: Minnesota Timberwolves @ Utah Jazz

    That is not wrong: he does shows flashes of excellency and has improved a lot. To become useful long-term he will need to either dramatically improve his finishing at the rim or develop a reliable jump shot. If he can gain both he would be a long-term starter, if just one of them - a quality backup.
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    Game Thread Jan 30, 2025 07:00PM MT: Minnesota Timberwolves @ Utah Jazz

    Not really. Collier started well but then several of his passes were either outright turnovers or not really on the spot. He does see the open players well but his passes often lack precision and put them into a tough position to finish. The truth is that the Jazz as a team do not have a...
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    2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

    You post so much that at some point you mentioned every thing imaginable.
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