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Jimmy Butler with a better jumpshot.

I mean, yes, the most likely outcome for the next three to five years of tanking is the current Orlando Magic. I'm not sure many people doubt that other than like Ryan Smith.

Hardy being so mad at guys not playing hard in a game the Jazz were intentionally throwing is so funny. Bro, it's just human nature for 21 year olds to not play as hard in a game you're explicitly trying to lose.

Outside of Walker, I'm not sure there's anyone on this roster who will be here four or five years from now.

I would like him to hit prime Kawhi level, but I'm not sure I'm there yet. Has had a very impressive season, but still thinking Jimmy Butler+ is more likely. Would not rule him out of hitting Kawhi level though.

I think prime Kawhi's physical tools are a good bit above Flagg's... Kawhi's hand size and wingspan are just absurd and allow him to get off tons of jumpshots when healthy. I think Flagg may be a lower FGA/g guy like Butler.

Flagg comparisons: Playstyle: More athletic and better shooting Scottie Barnes Impact: Better shooting Jimmy Butler? Downsides/questions: -Aesthetically not pleasing, will cause tons of stoppages due to constant trips to the line (again, similar to Jimmy Butler and Scottie Barnes and...

Feel WAY better about this class now that Harper has broken out of his slump. Was worried he had gotten figured out.

I was just referring to the "screwed" part. We should expect to not get a top 3 pick.

Most rookies contribute basically nothing to winning. Wemby was the only rookie from the 2023 class that really helped his team win last year.

I don't really know how Ainge and Hardy sold Lauri on the tank. Like, you look at the 2021 draft, a really good class. Out of the top 8 guys, four became stars. One of the four stars became a star in his third year (Scottie Barnes) while the other three needed until year 4 (Cade, Mobley...

Even if you finish with the worst record in the NBA, you have a 60% chance of not getting a top 3 pick.

I just don't think MPJ is an interesting or game changing player at all. He can be the 4th best guy on a good team, but I don't think he's more than a fringe top 75 guy in the NBA.

That is true, we will have to wait and see.

With regards to VJ's measurements.

Starting to come to the conclusion that Ace's best case scenario is actually healthy Lauri Markkanen, lol. -Can't create any separation -Horrible passer -Elite shooter -Elite at the rim finisher -Very big -Extremely up and down defender Had to think of guys this horrible at creating offense...

I think that was more Ainge spinning after failing to get Jrue, Porzingis, PG13, and Bridges and not getting a big return for Markkanen. "There are five for sure stars in this draft" was something no one should have said, but Ainge needed to justify a tank. Harper has star potential and Flagg...

He's faded badly but there's just no one else.

This draft class is weird. Flagg is having one of the best statistical seasons I can remember. Like Zion levels of statistical dominance. Harper had an AMAZING start and then has faded completely. He should probably go like #3 in a normal draft but will go #2 here. And everyone else is just...

You can get star players for cheap-ish if one of two things occurs 1. They demand to be traded to your team 2. You are willing to overpay them Or some mild combination of both. Neither of these things is happening in Utah.