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So (according to this aggregation)?: Great #1 Very good #2 Iffy, but high potential #3-4 (and maybe draft sites like Ace better than some teams do) Big mess of crapshoots #5-rest of lottery (with Tre holding a somewhat better floor than the rest)

Never seen this site before, so I can't vouch for it, but it does say converts to 2028 2nd rounder: https://www.salaryswish.com/trades/players/derrick-favors But yeah, it seems to be the only one saying that that I can find.

The conclusion after watching the curb stomping the Thunder (the team of all the so-called tanking teams that depends on their "tank" the least) put on the Grizzlies is that we should have tanked more? This kind of logic is why I find trust in tanking to be more of an article of faith than...

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Interesting. If I'm understanding right, these are not fully getting rid of tanking incentives, but rather having revenue sharing and tanking incentives be mutually exclusive or at least compete against each other more than currently, thus lowering the number of teams that will tank. Probably...

Thanks for the thoughts!! I think you've understood and analyzed it well. I think you're right it would create some weird dynamics, including the best teams perhaps trying to tank a bit toward the end in hopes that they can catch draft magic in the small, but slightly higher odds. I'm still...

All great thoughts. Thanks! I think any proposal is going to have advantages/disadvantages, advocates/detractors. But yeah, letting a top 10 team have a chance at the top spot will be unpopular (though I think it beats the wheel in this regard). For the second point: it may lead to some...

I have to admit that I'm surprised that everyone has just ignored my odds-flattening lottery rejiggering earlier in this thread that tries to do exactly this (is it because no one can read/fully comprehend tankathon-style odds?): while keeping the aspect of giving the worst teams the highest...

The tendency that really irks me is when someone uses without-shoes measurements when they don't like a guy, and with-shoes measurements when they like someone else. Donovan started out 6-3 (which would be the standard throughout NBA history), then as people tired of him (and to be fair, as the...

I'll give it a try: The lottery only directly determines picks 1-4. After that (picks 5-30), the order is determined by the worst records remaining. If we don't get top 4, then we will get pick 5 (as the worst remaining record). If we get top 4, then the Wizards (as the worst record remaining...

So if Wiz win the #1 pick, it was thanks to him -- and it will be the shot that we rue the rest of our living days? (Maybe along with the Hardy timeout to that led to waving off Sexton's shot against the Jazz, and a couple other shots throughout the season that could have given us the #2 spot if...

You have a great memory. I didn't remember this at all, so I looked it up. Lots of very good players went through Portsmouth including John Stockton.

Clips prevail... so it's #21?

Now we get to spend a month, maybe 2 1/2 months, debating whether Tre Johnson is our guy or whether or whether he has any competition as #5 in the draft.

It matters, but from those options, it's hard to tell what to root for.

Former 2-way Jazzman Josh Christopher comes through with key backcourt violation that sets up Carrington's buzzer beater.

I'm calculating that if the Jazz win tomorrow, their odds of this turning into a top four pick are about 1 in 218 (0.46%) -- based on a rough estimate of 45% chance of Wolves losing first play-in game, and 30% chance of losing second play-in game. (Of course your scenario--a Jazz win--also means...

If the draft is really 4 deep (and the difference between 5 & 6 is relatively small), that would be reason to win, not to lose. The odds of a top-4 draft choice don't change no matter what happens tomorrow. EDIT: other than what @gandalfe said a few posts above. (So the better way to say it is...

Do I have this right?: If Minny loses 3 straight games they're highly motivated and heavily favored to win (including against us, the worst team in the league, one that hasn't shown any signs of legitimate life for several weeks), then their pick for us will be a lottery pick (#14), and our...

I should give them more credit. The two Williams, Joe, and Wiggins are legit rotation players. The game is much slower for them than anyone the Jazz have at this point.