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For both teams, though. I'm not worried about our first and second year players not looking great against NBA vets. That's to be expected. I'm worried about them looking like garbage against other first and second year players and 30-year-olds with no realistic chance of making the NBA.

Like someone's forcing me to, that's how.

Last time I checked, Cheech and Chong did the smoking, they didn't get smoked.

Much better second half. Lofton looks a little bit trimmer and you can totally tell why he stomped the G-League like it was late-harvest Gewürztraminer. I'm really curious to see if trimming down more will make him effective against actual NBA-level opposition. Kyle Filipowski is shooting...

It's kinda messed up that everyone who's checked in for the Jazz so far is on a guaranteed contract and not some scrub trying to catch on and yet we look this bad.

Read the thread again. I did not mention those guys, I actually pointed out that most of those guys have done nothing in the league thus far. It was @idiot who listed those players. And yes, I'd be unhappy if the Jazz had a top 5 pick and got KAT, Beal or Young. Not one of those players is...

None of those players are ATGs. Some of them won't even be HOFers. Oooh, Trae made a single All-NBA team. Put up right up there with Jokić and Curry. But sure, I'll bite. Let's see how you're not trolling. Build a team around Beal of players who aren't better than him that would win a...

I'm sorry, but this is borderline trolling now. You list guys who aren't even All-NBA types(you know, top 15 in the league in a given year) and who have struggled to lead teams to even just a playoff berth as #1 options as players you could build a title winner around? I get you have a boner...

Most of the list is shaky. Only three people from it have actually won a ring. One definitely wasn't a #1 option(even if you accept the title itself as a genuine one) and the other two were on the same team so obviously one of them was not the #1 option. That really leaves one player.

Freaking boomer. You're supposed to like draft boards and trade deadlines way more than actual basketball.

I don't want the magic beans, I just want to keep the cow we have.

I just wish the Jazz would stop being a farm team for others. It's been 20+ years since Stockton and Malone and I feel like every time the Jazz have developed some good players, they couldn't trade them away for future assets quickly enough. I just wanna watch one single Jazz team go through a...

Ok, I don't know if you're trolling or if I need to explain to you that girlfriends and wives are also family?

"NBA teams are talking about the fact that they had questions about his girlfriend being so much older than him, why was he estranged from his family because of this whole situation. It’s a very, very odd situation. " Sure sounds like he's saying the teams were nervous about the situation and...

Givony and many others have said it was because of family issues, but okay.

There was plenty of talk online that the reason he fell to the Jazz in the second round was concerns about this relationship. Not in the sense that there's going to be legal issues or anything like that, but in the sense that he's estranged from his family and that she seemingly wields a huge...

The age difference isn't the issue per se, it's the circumstances. This really shouldn't be that complicated. If you've known someone when you were an adult and they were a kid, don't ever bang them. Is this so much to ask of people?

According to this logic, grooming doesn't even exist as a concept then.

And yet we didn't listen to the universe trying to tell us.

The weight is not a concern at all. I weighed about 50 pounds more at 28 than I did at 18 and it did not require effort at all.