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Who can we convince to trade for Derrick and then release him so that we can pick him up? Who's silly enough to do this?

I'm proud for a dude who was a hard negative last year, to being positive this year. I think playing with better players certainly helps. He still has to go out onto the court and do it, and he has for the most part.

Cheers for the discussion in any case HH, regardless of our differing opinions.

I agree, his hustle is great at times too, i can recognize where he can play well, but like I said in my previous post HH, I will not gloss over his severe negative aspects. Shall we leave it there?

This is where I will leave it, he was good on the offensive end, his precision shooting was good, and needed. But I will not gloss over his awful, awful defensive effort today.

So every other aspect of his game which is a negative is just accepted then? Niang is never great at any other aspect of basketball so we'll just skip over it.

Emmanuel Mudiay: 12 points, 2 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, only one turnover, +5. A completely positive player not just today, but over the season. This is the type of performance you praise from top to bottom. I'm so damn proud of what this dude is doing right now, compared to the rest...

Even still HH, is this what we would call a good game by Niang? He was all kinds of horrific on defense. As much as I am thankful for his 100 percent three point shooting, his defense cemented his negative result. Why are you choosing to disregard his defensive effort today? Does it only take...

Also disregarding a player's negative defensive impact in one game is a terrible barometer. Even with scoring 9 in 12 minutes, he still managed to give away more than what he returned as positive impact to the team. This is also not 'one game'. This is a consistent situation throughout the...

Is Quin ballsy enough to try Bradley against the heat?

He's had all five off seasons?Yeah I'm sure all of those times where his knees were banged up and couldn't even run or jump, when his shoulder was banged and he couldn't even shoot, and his most recent injury where he was restricted by the medical team and coaches that he couldn't even leave the...

I never said he didn't have any time to develop, because that simply isn't true. On the other hand, its not true that he has had plenty of time to develop as you mentioned, and that's where I thought you were being unreasonable. I think if he had had multiple off seasons to improve and only a...

Funnily enough he was better in his two minutes even with his 4 fouls, than Ed in his 6 minutes. Bradley was also a positive. Up against a tough Miami next, so expect Quin to revert back to Ed because of that.

How many off seasons has he had to improve? How many times has he had to restart his career from scratch and win his place in the team back? Make no mistake, he is a bust due to the sheer amount of injuries he has had, and missed off season opportunities to get better. You need to realize that...

How can you possibly say he has had plenty time to develop? He's lost almost all of his development time. Can you stop being a moron? People like you expect him to hit the ground running with 10 months out.

I'd just like to add, Ed Davis hasn't looked an NBA player all season.

Damn this one started early. Just finished watching the game. Good win, Mudiay was excellent, potentially his best game for the Jazz. Rudy was a beast. Don looked like a point guard 20 and 9? Noice! I like it. Quin had the guts to go with Bradley in the second half, and got ejected too? This...

I've heard a bunch of our guys say Donovan is our best player and it's not a crazy thing to say. In terms of overall impact at winning, well, that paints a different picture. Rudy is still the biggest factor bar none, on whether we win or not.

The same Niang he's talking about, is the one who is the most negative player on the team in terms of plus minus. Even more negative than Jeff Green and Ed Davis on average. But you know, lets not get things like that get in the way of making a narrative, or you know, doing any research.

Yeah the whole Shelvin debacle was a ...well, a debacle. We’ve at times refused to develop a guy, who is starved of development. The way we’ve tried to in the cases that we’ve tried, is like a mother with their only child. Son don’t go out to play with other children, or play in the dirt. As...