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It just sucks, because if you knew he would stay for a bit longer and give you like a 4-5 year window, I think they could successfully pivot and break through. But the 2-3 year window is just not enough given the market. It's why Dame or Giannis is exactly the type of star you have to have to...

I think they're currently playing with the fire of "do we dare take a slight step back and Donovan possibly asks for a trade next offseason" and "staying good while trying to totally pivot at some point to try and convince him to stay". It's a difficult situation, and the real problem is, we...

It kind of sucks but is this the general feeling of most at this point? I'm not sure this is the front office or ownerships approach, I really do think they'd like him here much longer than that, but the conversation of what to do with the roster changes a lot if the feeling is he's leaving in 2...

From what Tony said on radio the past few weeks, they're probably going to give it one last go with what the roster generally looks like. Then next offseason if they lose in round 1 or 2, there's going to be a massive overhaul, likely trying to pivot to try and keep Donovan. I'm just not sure...

Rayjon Tucker was at that Powder League thing last week for a few days, I've met Tucker, he's a very awesome dude, I wish he could harness his athleticism in a more impactful way. He's very talented, he just isn't a great NBA player. As for Hughes, yeah, I think he has a chance to be a JC type...

It's possible, but they would have to know know that, and I don't get the feeling that's Ryan Smith's approach. As has been reported, a big reason Smith brought in Wade was because he wants Donovan here for the long term, I think Wade wants Donovan here long term. I just don't think they've...

I'm gonna be honest, I don't see how you have any chance at keeping Donovan in a few years if you don't pivot like right now. You cannot just keep getting older without any good young talent that will be useful in a few years. I think Donovan seems to like Trent Forrest, and I do as well, his...

I thought the article was a bit much, I’m just not so sure the seed isn’t already growing. It’s hard to ignore the fact several people have kind of mentioned Donovan’s want to be here isn’t really there anymore. I’m not saying that’s 100% true, but it’s been said by a few people and you gotta...

More Donovan offseason stuff, no need for a thread on it, I’m not sure if Monson is just going off the Windhorst report or if he’s also heard similar things, but here’s the article he wrote today. https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/07/02/gordon-monson-dont-go/

A big reason I’m glad Ryan Smith bought the Jazz is because I think he gets how to treat players. He’s been great and supportive of off the court stuff, and with Donovan specifically it seems like Smith is trying to give Donovan anything he wants. Having a power struggle with your star player...

According to Tony Jones of the Atheltic towards the end of this interview he talks about how expensive this roster will be if they keep it and add to it, and if they don’t get out of the 2nd round next season “Everyone’s going” Obviously that would point to a lot of the players and they would...

Was actually waiting for this. This is a very good thing.

FWIW I'm not sure who you would trade Rudy for, but I think you need to trade Rudy if you're going to keep Donovan happy at some point. That relationship is still not perfect and Donovan will 100% blame Rudy for the collapse in game 6. I get that's not ideal but Donovan has his clique on the...

Andy Larsen is the one who asked Joe about it today after shootaround. Andy's question was basically is he thought the process was strange, if they were surprised, and what his opinion was on what happened. Joes full response was: He kind of snarkily started off "You're not in the room every...

I think everyone's main issue with Donovan's periodic drama is mainly how public he makes it. I think in most the instances Donovan has been upset, we can all understand why he would be upset, I just think a lot of the drama could be avoided if he simply went to the front office and told them...

Also, I think one eye misheard what was said there. The guy on the left of that video is Alan Kahn and he works for MSG Networks and is a huge Knicks fan. His entire shtick in that segment is “the Knicks are watching this closely” and saying he’s never happy in SLC. Yeah because he wants him on...

Eh, I don’t think Donovan’s nearly as popular as he was like a year and a half ago among the fanbase. I think he was the most popular player among the fanbase prior to the Covid issue we had ever seen, or at least top 3, but since last March I think his popularity has lessened quite a bit, and...

Same same. I don’t even mind the cold, the inversions which I guess aren’t really that significant amount of time each year is probably my biggest gripe too. Hopefully we make some big strides in cleaning them up the best we can in the coming years and decade.

But he has to workout with his basketball trainers in NY during the offseason who have him shoot uncontested mid range jumpers and do dribbling drills. Luckily we gave him the player option he pushed for so we get the growth years and not the prime years I guess. He hasn’t been good, and as...

I love SLC, those who don’t? **** em. SLC is not a giant city. Yes it has winter, it also has anything you need and is close to Vegas and LA if you want a vacation. SLC is a nice place, if some don’t like it oh well.