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    Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

    I think the argument for not including Barrett in the deal is getting more picks. Picks are the universal NBA currency, so unless we are in love with Barrett I kinda get it. We can always use the picks to get a “Barrett” we like better later on.
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    Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

    Okay, this has officially gone on far too long. Time for the Knicks to quit playing tough on this.
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    Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

    Also, from Katz’s reporting, it sounds like the Knicks are trying to give up no more than two of their own unprotected picks. A package of two Knicks unprotected, 2-3 junk protected picks from other teams, and matching salary really excites me no more than the package we’d get from Miami.
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    Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

    We would be flipping Herro for more picks.
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    Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

    If Miami can swing a trade that nets them some picks, don’t they become the favorite? I think I would prefer them as a trade partner to the Knicks. Herro is a far better player asset than anything we’d get from the Knicks and is a flippable piece. It’d be hilarious if the Knicks whiffed on...
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    In everyone’s defense, what are we supposed to do while the Knicks FO sits around pretending Danny isn’t going to win this trade?
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    Here are my thoughts — if we make the other moves to gut the roster of vets, we’ve essentially shown our hand to the Knicks and the rest of the NBA that we’re tanking. Right now we can at least tell the Knicks with a straight face that if they don’t want to meet our price for Don, we’ll keep...
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    No, cuz I am ready to embrace the tank.
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    I have no problem with Pat Bev wanting to win and sharing his feelings on his sleeve. Time to move him somewhere he can win.
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    Mitchell Will be Traded Today (9/1/22)

    It’s time for NY to stop pretending they aren’t gonna pay up and get this done.
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    We need to start pulling the trigger on deals for a few guys. Bogey especially. I worry if we don’t trade him this summer there’s a really good chance he falls off a cliff this coming season due to age. I am fine with Ainge doing the “here’s my price, call if you want to meet it” thing on most...
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    Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

    Anyone wanna do the rundown of how many picks and young players each of these teams could include? The Kings, Hornets, and Wizards jump out to me as interesting because their picks are historically good.
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    To Andy Larsen this — I’m not sure if this is a report just communicating facts, or if it’s carefully designed messaging from our FO to cultivate a degree of FOMO from the Knicks. (“Jazz are willing to wait oh and by the way there are also a bunch of other teams that want Mitchell.”)
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    Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

    Perhaps I am misunderstanding what a pick swap is, but don’t we essentially get nothing if our pick is better than NY’s pick, and isn’t it a virtual certainty our picks will be better than NY’s in ‘24 and ‘25? Wouldn’t pick swaps in the later ‘20s be more valuable?
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    Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

    Call your shot — what will the trade end up being? Here’s my guess: Fournier Grimes Toppin 3 unprotected Knicks FRPs 3 FRPs Knicks have from other teams
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    Yes, I understand that expiring contracts have value to a tanking team, but Russell Westbrook isn’t the only expiring contract in the NBA next offseason. Can they throw in some ‘23, ‘24, or ‘25 second rounders too? I like the idea of getting as many darts to throw in next year’s draft as possible.
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    I think we are in agreement we should move off our veteran players. I just think we can do better than 2 total FRPs for Beverley, Clarkson, and Beasley. You disagree. I guess we’ll see what happens. The proposed trade with the Lakers does achieve some objectives, it just doesn’t seem like...
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    Beverley, Clarkson, and Beasley are not “bad” salary by any stretch of the imagination. Though they don’t serve Utah’s objectives next season, that doesn’t mean we cash them in for pennies. They are all positive trade value players. Russ is “bad” salary by all objective measures because he is...
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    I don’t think this is enough picks heading our direction on a deal like this. If Royce got a first round pick, It’s not inconceivable that each of Bev, Clarkson, and Beasley could fetch a single FRP in separate deals. We are also taking on huge bad salary to help the Lakers out significantly...
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    Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

    Are we trying to turn this into F, Marry, Kill: Jazz Dancers edition? F: Savannah Marry: Casandra Kill: Tyree
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