Search results

  1. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    Yeah, and ....? I've questioned the efficacy of tanking vs. its cost. I haven't proposed eliminating it. Also, that a policy creates some perverse incentives at the margin is to be expected and not necessarily in itself a reason not to enact a policy. It's a matter of degree. My sense is that...
  2. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    Thank you for taking the time to do this. I think we're all in agreement that, on average, you're more likely to find allstars or superstars (however defined) at the top of the draft. Thus, drafing higher rather than lower is important, and it's one reason why high draft picks are valued so...
  3. S

    Game Thread Jan 12, 2025 06:00PM MT: Brooklyn Nets @ Utah Jazz

    Let's hope so, mon mimi. If not, what does that say about how the Jazz have drafted during the first two years of the tank? If we don't believe any of these guys can play a large role on a winning NBA team, the entire tank has been a bloody wasted two years. If the Jazz FO is that poor at...
  4. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    Sound familiar to anyone? Fisher, B. (2012). Fandom, identity, and online communities: A review of sports fan studies. Sport in Society, 15(5), 720-734. This paper discusses the role of fandom in digital spaces, where extreme loyalty and commitment to a team can sometimes result in the...
  5. S

    Game Thread Jan 12, 2025 06:00PM MT: Brooklyn Nets @ Utah Jazz

    One challenge with tanking is that players are playing for contracts, playing time, or even remaining on an NBA roster. They want to play well and win. They've no incentive to fall on their swords to support the tank so that the team can draft their replacements. It's a delicate balancing act...
  6. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    He could be, but the odds weigh strongly against it. (I follow his career at Duke only sporadically and superficially. I used to be a huge college b-ball fan--go Tarheels--but now find college basketball boring and difficult to watch.) I've been reading this board for many years. I vividly...
  7. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    That's an excellent question. If I can find the time, I'll look into it, or someone else can. Just to be clear, my point is not that drafting in the top 5 is not important—all else equal, higher draft picks are better than lower draft picks—it's the uncritical assertion by many that a...
  8. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    I'm curious: Can anyone guess the odds that a #1 draft pick will lead the team that drafted it to 1) an NBA championship or 2) an NBA final? Answer: 1) Since 2000, 8.3%. 2) Since 2000, 20.8%. The only #1 picks to win an NBA championship with the team that drafted it since 2000 are LeBron James...
  9. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    You don't like mine, so I'm hard-pressed to understand my obligation to like yours. I guess my condolences are, therefore, required?
  10. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    Troll: Person possesing the temerity to push back on the pro-tank consensus. Somebody who expresses skepticism about what others accept uncritically as the unquestionable Gospel truth about the wisdom and cost vs. benefits of tanking via a structural teardown.
  11. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    My point is that this definition is far too broad. It empowers tanking advocates to advance any number of specious arguments supporting the Jazz tanking strategy while dismissing any skepticism, notwithstanding that much of the evidence cited is irrelevant to the Jazz's situation. The Jazz's...
  12. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    LOL, all hail cognitive dissonance. The pro-tanking crowd is so unused to pushback or situations where they cannot browbeat dissent that they refuse to deal in good faith with anyone who doesn't drink their Kool-Aid.
  13. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    Defining tanking in such broad terms renders discussion about its merits pointless. Perhaps more importantly to the pro-tanking advocates, it serves to inoculate them from criticism because now they can invoke any number of examples, i.e., 5-10, to claim that it works. For example, the Lakers...
  14. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    I Whoops, I meant to say a small minority.
  15. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    That is not the context in which I've heard/read most tanking conversations occur. For the most part, tanking is advanced as the solution for teams to get off the "mediocrity treadmill" and on the path to a championship. This corresponds with the prevailing ringz culture that dominates the...
  16. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    Thus, the answer to the evergreen question on social media: How long before people resort to insults to deal with disagreements?
  17. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    Did the Lakers tank (i.e., intentionally tear down an otherwise competitive team to accumulate draft picks), or were they organically bad? I don't recall. For that matter, did Orlando, Detroit, Washington, and Orlando tank? Or was their sucktitude more a matter of front office incompetence or...
  18. S

    2024-2025 Tank Race

    I think we need to answer two questions to be on the same page in the tanking discussion: 1. What is tanking? 2. What is the goal of tanking? In the context of the current NBA, and judging by what I hear/read routinely from talking heads, podcasters, blog boys, and social media fans, my answers...
  19. S

    Kessler's girlfriend is the new Miss America

    If I remember correctly, the scout on Moneyball who said that was a portly middle-aged man that no one would call handsome or sexy. His wife must have been thoroughly lacking in confidence to marry that slob.
Back
Top