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The trick is that the Jazz died with Miller. And I wasn't even a fan of LHM. I wasn't ever happy with the lack of spending, particularly during Stockton and Malone's peaks, but this management makes me nostalgic for those days. It's not just this trade, mind, it's the way they misread...

Best move since Hitler invaded Russia. What I find hard to swallow is that they made this "great move" on the eve of a new collective bargaining agreement.

I find it hard to deny that the offseason caused this. This board hates Boozer. OK. Fine. But the mistake is in underestimating his value. The rebounding was awful -- just as I predicted, and many bawked at -- and the offense? Wow. I knew that the Jazz offense couldn't work without a...

See, I liked it. He's gone from arguing his 'theory' to pretending that it's not his theory at all. Topped by anti-Hallmark greetings. Shalom. Alpha and omega.

What you did was acknowledge it, then go on to pretend it was a non-issue while assuming that Sloan was THE issue. Really? Your outline was that diverse? Then why is it being laid on Sloan at all? And just as a refresher, here's the paragraph you started with: Looks like you pushed...

Facts come from theories. Are you aware of this fact? There are good theories, interesting theories, and bad theories (however these become defined). And then there are really, really moronic theories. That's where you came in. So far as allegory versus the literal, Sloan as the problem...

And yet, you like it there, right? You don't see a problem with living in the market. If you didn't, I assume you would be better able to see the viewpoint of so many people that have rejected the market. Further, you seem too lacking to understand that your lifestyle -- just maybe -- isn't...

Well, see, that's rather unavoidable when taking the stance-as-sophistry that is the same as the Darren Defence Force's. Now, you get the point. If only by accident.

So, would you posit the theory that the Earth is flat? It's about the same level, and by positing if not asseverating it, you certainly put across the idea as plausible. Which is laughable.

Foreign concept? The thing is, who would believe winter without spring? It's more like summer from my side, but you get the idea. Right?

No, I'm saying that a fool like JJ has nothing of worth to bring to the argument. And, yes, living in Utah is a part of that, at least to the extent that this dimwit believes his experiences in that selfsame area -- his liking it -- means that high-profile FAs would have no problem with it...

What irony. It's the local Utah fan that so often can't stand negative remarks about that same market, no matter how true. As seen in this thread. Anybody dumb enough to think Sloan is the problem with finding FAs, as opposed to an often cheap FO in a miserable market, is someone that...

Don't be silly. Greggy has this team headed for contraction, not Vegas.

So far as math, good versus bad, I'm willing to bet, looking at the crap you post on this board -- the simplistic yet incoherent rhetoric, the need to slander Sloan while pretending that any sources against Deron are empty, the quotes from 'great' men that you use while being too illiterate to...

Yeah. I'm the crazy one. As opposed to you, the guy who thinks that Sloan kept "winning" players out of Utah, and that the SLC market is not a turnoff AT ALL. I mean, how could it be? That just doesn't make any sense -- well, at least it doesn't make any sense for the same type of fool that...

Right. Anyone who thinks Sloan was pushed out by Duh-Ron is a conspiracy believing nutcase. You know. Just like all those people that said Kobe drove Shaq out.

JJ Rage's Avatar Join Date May 2010 Location SLC How utterly predictable. Jesus. This board's myopic, insular and provincial nature is at least half the entertainment value.

Yes. I know. Sloan was the big impediment to all the talent coming in. Not the fact that Utah, as a selfsame factor, turned them off. No. Not even when this is openly stated over and over. I mean, what makes sense about that? I get the feeling that you've never lived in one of the big...

And if you value winning, then it makes sense that you'd be disgusted by the presence of one of the only active-HOF coaches, third all-time on the career wins list.

Careful, that last question as to Deron's knowledge is tantamount to "lies" and "hate" around here. Yes. Jerry Sloan was the problem. Not a white-bread, small market that waters down its alcohol and has no diversity of culture, or media attention. So many guys would want to play for a...