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    Kessler's extension

    Did they also bribe Collins, Keyonte, Clarkson and Sexton? The Jazz were sitting everyone for tanking and not just Kessler.
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    Kessler's extension

    So you are suggesting paying Kessler way more money than to Allen (last year he signed the extension for 3 year 31 million) and almost on par with Sengun, who also signed last year the 5-185 extension?
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    Kessler's extension

    Looking at the average salary per contract of the non-star starting centers (excluding old guys and rookies) there seem to be 2 groups: 1. Centers that can shoot 3-pointers or pass: Sabonis (47), Sengun (36), Porzingis (31), Hartenstein (29), with the exception of Wendell Carter (18) and Turner...
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    Kessler's extension

    Thanks, edited.
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    Kessler's extension

    Oh, I meant the average annual payment for the contract. After all, not every rookie signs their extension for the same 5 years: some do for 3 years etc. I thought that that would take the length of the extension out of the consideration, at least to some degree. Otherwise it would be very hard...
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    Kessler's extension

    Franz Wagner signed a five-year, $224 million rookie maximum extension last year.
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    Kessler's extension

    Walker Kessler is eligible to begin extension talks this summer. Everybody loves Walker. I know that ideally we would like him to sign the extension for $300,000 per year but in reality he could be asking for a bit more. At what price point should the Jazz rather say "We can't do it. Good luck!"...
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    Following Potential 2025 Draftees

    That is actually a much bigger problem. Since the Jazz are most likely to tank the next year as well they will have to decide on the extensions for Kessler, Brice, Keyonte and Hendricks based exclusively on on their play in meaningless games of a tanking team. Fun choices ahead.
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    Who would you rather keep, Lauri Markkanen or John Collins? (Please read scenario)

    Like, realistically, what is the timeline with Lauri? We will most likely tank next year. Will we make the playoffs the year after that? The West is tough and the Jazz can easily fall short even with good young players. (see the Spurs with Wemby). If we make the payoffs for the first time in the...
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    Who would you rather keep, Lauri Markkanen or John Collins? (Please read scenario)

    Another thing to consider is that Collins as a player has very few weak areas. He can score inside, he can shoot from the outside, he is OK on defense, can do some passing and dribbling, can play physically. John also has playoff experience, very coachable and sticks well to his role. John is...
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    If the NBA Draft Lottery is rigged, where will we land?

    If the NBA rigs the lottery by sending the top prospects to the most marketable teams than they are doing an astonishingly poor job. In the last 30+ years the teams receiving multiple highly touted players via first picks were San Antonio (Duncan, Wemby), Cleveland (LeBron, Wiggins, Kyrie)...
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    2025 Playoffs Chat & Chill Thread

    Eubanks, the most dangerous player in the NBA, is on the court for the Clippers now. He has posted the 16-0 win record in his last 16 games.
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    Who would you rather keep, Lauri Markkanen or John Collins? (Please read scenario)

    IF the Jazz manage to extend Collins for 18-20 million for 3 more years they probably should trade Markkanen: yes, John as the 3rd option is less impactful than Lauri but they can save 28-32 million per year for another impactful player and get some nice package for Lauri. Markkanen is a...
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    Who would you rather keep, Lauri Markkanen or John Collins? (Please read scenario)

    You can say the same about Lauri in the last months of the 2022/23: the Jazz were tanking and put him out paired with horrible players. However, Lauri posted 29/9 in March and was scoring 38 and 40 points playing alongside Kessler-Olynyk-Agbaji-THT. He was clearly unable to do it this season...
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    Who would you rather keep, Lauri Markkanen or John Collins? (Please read scenario)

    Folks would overreact to that but it is a fair question. Things to consider: 1. In the most recent, 2024/25 season their production has been roughly similar: same PPG, Collins shot and rebounded better, Markkanen had more "gravity" and opened up more opportunities for other players. 2. For his...
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    2025 Playoffs Chat & Chill Thread

    Every time there is a big game Exum plays scared, tentative and ineffective. Like in good old days.
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    Let's go!!!

    Somehow there is way more excitement and hope of getting Flagg than getting Wemby 2 years ago. As if the Jazz "earned" their first pick this time.
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    Oscar

    As the 3rd center for a nickel he will be fine.
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    You can only pick one, who would you put 2nd Team All-Rookie? Collier vs Filipowski

    To be honest this high assist count in the large part was simply due to the fact that Collier was the only PG on a bad team. Trey Burke and Killian Hayes posted similar numbers on bad teams too. It speaks more to the lack of experienced secondary playmakers alongside Collier: he logged a lot...
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    Do you want the Jazz to win their last game against the Wolves?

    That's true but it is a totally different issue than drafting 5th "in a draft that imho is 4 deep".
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