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    Will we see another like him?

    IMO, maybe not in our lifetime. Lebron can get all the criticism people want to give him, but whatever. He is the best player in the league and possibly of all time. It's better to just enjoy greatness while it's happening than to be bitter and hate on it and look back eventually and realize how...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    Babe, I'm sorry but a lot of what you talk about are conspiracy theories, I'm not gonna convince you and you aren't going to convince me so I'll leave it at that. LaVoy was not murdered by police. There were several issues that led up to him being killed, there is also no proof he was shot and...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    Stoked we agree on more than we disagree. I think all our national parks, wildlife refuges, monuments, and conservation areas need to stay as is. They should be protected and money should be spent mango g and improving them. I do however believe there are federal lands not currently in those...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    Stoked I agree, the BLM should not be doing anything like that. I would be fine with cutting down some federal lands, but I fear if the state got a hold of them, they would sell the ones that would bring the most value which would be the most pristine places we all use. There's a lot of federal...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    Stoked, if you don't like the western public lands, the east has the private property your looking for. Move, the government forces no one to live here. I'm not saying that to be an ******* but no one keeps any of these people in places that have always been surrounded by public land. As for...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    Babe, I don't have all day so I'm just gonna hit on a few points. In one of your posts you mention the jeep trails getting closed and how hard core explorers can't explore anymore. If you need a road to get to the backcountry you aren't a hard core explorer. Yes there have been roads closed, but...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    I believe LaVoy Finicum was a man who put himself in a bad situation. He said he was willing to die, constantly carried a gun during this occupation, fled from officers, and tried to go around a road block by police. He got out of the truck and didn't get on the ground and also reached for his...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    I don't really consider them "terrorists". However, they have broken the law in several ways and need to be held accountable.
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    Nevada at 81% is probably too high, but I am okay with all the rest. The problem is the state wants a transfer, and to write up the management/disposal plan for these lands. The state wants a transfer and no stipulations. There's nothing by law or constitutionally, as well as 125 court cases...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    I respect your opinion on that. The public lands we have in the west are like nothing else in the world. Theodore Roosevelt created all the national forests and lands for a very good reason, tonensure future generations of an amazing landscape that could be sustainably used. If I felt like the...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    I bring up D's an R's because this is an issue that is split right down the middle. Democrats don't support transfer of these lands to the state, republicans do. There are a few republicans that don't support it, and I give them a lot of credit for standing up for the citizens they represent...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    Stoked, the state and local agencies as well as congress have every way to fix the issues with our land management agencies. Many of the same people complaining are the same ones who vote against the very things that would fix the problems the BLM and Forest Service have. The Bundys are nothing...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    And to add to how stupid they look, the fence they tore out that they said they had "the ranchers permission", turns out they had no permission at all. The rancher expressed his anger to the media, and went in and fixed the fence they tore down and said he has had no problems with the BLM and...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    They unlawfully have now taken over a federal building, used federal equipment, and cut fences on the refuge. It's time for this to end, hopefully peacefully, and with them being prosecuted for whatever crimes they've committed. Public lands are great places and I love them and use them every...
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    150 Terrorists invade Oregon

    While it looks like this tread has driven off course into a ditch, I'll voice my opinion on the issue. These men are welfare, scumbags who need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law and their welfar father needs to be dealt with as well. They have sucked off the federal governments ***...
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    Public land issues

    Either way babe, all I want is for these public lands to be valued. It's actually quite a luxury to be able to debate what should happen with them, but the debate is over if they are transferred to the state and then sold. I want to voice for their value and importance to keep them in public...
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    Public land issues

    Believing in conservation has nothing to do with "locking up the west." That's an easy 2 second sound bit to make conservation seem like environmentalism. Wise development is the path forward. We don't need to lock up the west, but we don't need to asphalt over it all either.
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    Public land issues

    I actually think you did quite well. I like the open and natural feel you've kept for the landscape. The problem other places around the state is high density development is eating up vital places to our wildlife. Take the mule deer for example. You see them across the whole state, you see a lot...
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    Public land issues

    I haven't slipped to the "dark side" I've just gotten tired of what I've seen. I've gotten tired of a state that fights every step of conservation. I've gotten tired of republicans trying to undercut clean water, wildlife, and wild landscapes. The sage grouse doesn't get listed, so now they are...
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    Public land issues

    I'm not really sure what side you are for, you seem to be pretty in the middle on the subject. This state does have a lot of public land.... And it's great. If their wasn't so much public land our state officials would have sold it, developed it, or destroyed it for greedy interests. Utah is...
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