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All-Time NBA Draft Round 1: Grayson's Hands vs. Eminence

Which team would win in a 7-game series?

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Elizah Huge

Elizah Huge

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Team Grayson's Hands:

PG - Gary Payton / Mark Price
SG - Dwyane Wade / Drazen Petrovic
SF - Grant Hill / Michael Finley
PF - Karl Malone / Elton Brand
C - Dikembe Mutombo / Robert Parish

Team Eminence:

PG - Stephen Curry
SG - Jerry West / Sidney Moncrief / Victor Oladipo
SF - John Havlicek / Luol Deng
PF - Draymond Green / Lamar Odom
C - Bill Walton / Nate Thurmond

Grayson's Hands' Case:

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Eminence's Case:

Just a quick write-up here, if anyone has any specific questions feel free to ask!

Team Eminence Rough Rotation Guide:
PG: Curry (36) / West (12)
SG: West (24) / Moncrief (12) / Oladipo (12)
SF: Hondo (30) / Deng (18)
PF: Green (36) / Odom (12)
C: Walton (36) / Thurmond (12)

Key Offensive Points:
-Off ball movement and team passing (decent to great passers all through my lineup), he has some strong defenders in the starting lineup, but it's always tough to defend a good team offense.
-Use Curry/West to hunt for switches, none of his bigs are known for great defending on the perimeter (Mutombo in particular), hunt for these situations, it'll generate great looks for us.
-Put Walton in the high post and leverage his passing from there to hit cutters/shooters, pull Mutombo away from the rim.
-His bench is much weaker defensively, especially on the perimeter, target when they're in.
-Main goal is to get out in transition, defense to offense, most of my players can grab a rebound and go, and Walton was a spectacular outlet passer (similar to Love today). Transition shots are the best shots in the NBA and we should be able to generate plenty (Curry/Oladipo have led the league in steals, Moncrief is a monster defensively, Draymond has finished 2nd in steals, and West/Hondo were racking them up before they were tracked).

Key Defensive Points:
-Wade/Malone are the key guys to gear up on and I think we have a pair of great matchups in West/Green in the starting lineup. Moncrief/Oladipo will hound Wade when in off the bench. When the bigs go to the bench Thurmond will take Malone(probably the best man defender for a big ever), while Odom will land on Parish.
-I don't see a coherent plan to his offense, Malone is THE PnR big and he doesn't have strong PnR guards. Shooting in the starting lineup is nearly non-existent.
-Let Walton sag off Mutombo/Parish and really clog the lane for drivers/cutters.
-Sag off his perimeter non-shooters, further clogging driving lanes, but really hunt the passing lanes to generate turnovers.

Overall:
I think his offense is too lacking in shooting and we can funnel them to spots on the floor and control/push the pace. Between easy transition looks and hunting for switches I think our offense runs smoothly through the series, with some huge explosions that Curry is known for. 4-2 for Team Eminence.

And thanks for putting this all together @Grayson's Hands!
 
WC's team got limited spacing with 4 mid-range shooters and a non-shooting center. But, I think Eminence's team would still have a hard time defending WC. Wade would feast, and I think Draymond is pretty overrated and would be destroyed by Malone. Payton would be the perfect defensive counter to Curry. I'm not very familiar with Havlicek's game.

I'll go with WC by a small margin.
 
Siro said:
WC's team got limited spacing with 4 mid-range shooters and a non-shooting center. But, I think Eminence's team would still have a hard time defending WC. Wade would feast, and I think Draymond is pretty overrated and would be destroyed by Malone. Payton would be the perfect defensive counter to Curry. I'm not very familiar with Havlicek's game.

I'll go with WC by a small margin.
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I knew that would be my biggest problem but I look at my team as similar to the 2011-2014 Miami Heat teams. On paper they didn’t have much spacing either but they all made it work.

Wade-LeBron-Bosh against Wade-Hill-Malone is in my favor. Prime Hill was supremely underrated and could facilitate like LeBron.

Then you have Payton and Mutombo to top it off on my team. I think we would make it work and a prime Wade/Malone combo with Hill is just terrifying to think about trying to guard.
 
Scoring it what wins games so Curry against any line up is a possible W.

But Grayson's Hands team is brutal. I think Karl Malone is even underrated around here, dude had the best rainbow fadeways I've ever seen. They'd put up points and have better defense.
 
WC went all 90s players in the starting lineup. I dont love the team composition for WC but he does have the better players and better players help win. Steph Curry really opens up the court though and changes things drastically. Hmm, this one is really close. Ill have to think about it.
 
I love WC’s team. His trade was ballsy, but I like the makeup of his team after the fact. Mutumbo is underrated and the Malone/Wade combo gives him an elite duo of scorers. Getting Malone was a coup.
 
Another problem is I dislike Green and its really hard to gauge the old school players and how they would match up. Jerry West and Havlicek are a 30 ppg player in the 50s-70s but could he even compete against an uber athletic Wade and/or pre injury grant hill?
 
Frontcourt is pretty even but as many here have already said it, not enough shooting for spacing on WC's team. Payton/Wade/Hill aren't solid 3pt shooter. Curry is gonna get his 3pt shot going and Green will too.

Eminence for me on this one.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Frontcourt is pretty even but as many here have already said it, not enough shooting for spacing on WC's team. Payton/Wade/Hill aren't solid 3pt shooter. Curry is gonna get his 3pt shot going and Green will too.

Eminence for me on this one.
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I’m glad he atleast got one vote.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Frontcourt is pretty even but as many here have already said it, not enough shooting for spacing on WC's team. Payton/Wade/Hill aren't solid 3pt shooter. Curry is gonna get his 3pt shot going and Green will too.

Eminence for me on this one.
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Yes, have faith in Green hitting the 3 but not The Glove. Smfh.
 
Voted for Team Grayson's Hands. That starting 5 would be great on both ends of the floor. I think the trio of Price/Petrovic/Finley off of the bench would provide enough spacing.
 
I like the players individually on WC’s team better, but the team as a whole is really poorly set up. Almost all of them operate in the same area on the court.

I don’t think Eminence’s team is good enough to overcome it though. Malone would feast on Green, and Wade would kill West.
 
Siro said:
WC's team got limited spacing with 4 mid-range shooters and a non-shooting center. But, I think Eminence's team would still have a hard time defending WC. Wade would feast, and I think Draymond is pretty overrated and would be destroyed by Malone. Payton would be the perfect defensive counter to Curry. I'm not very familiar with Havlicek's game.

I'll go with WC by a small margin.
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JustTheTip said:
I like the players individually on WC’s team better, but the team as a whole is really poorly set up. Almost all of them operate in the same area on the court.

I don’t think Eminence’s team is good enough to overcome it though. Malone would feast on Green, and Wade would kill West.
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