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Another mass shooting at Sikh temple

Marty McFly

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Another mass shooting, this time at Sikh temple

https://www.cnn.com/2012/08/05/us/wisconsin-temple-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

(CNN) -- At least seven people, including a gunman shot by a police officer, have been killed in an attack on worshippers at a Sikh temple in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek, Wisconsin, on Sunday, police said.
The officer was wounded but "returned fire, and that shooter was put down," said Bradley Wentlandt, the police chief in nearby Greenfield, who briefed reporters. Investigators who picked through the building afterward found four bodies inside the temple and two other victims outside, plus the gunman, Wentlandt said.
Though early reports had suggested there may have been more than one attacker, he said officers had not identified any other gunmen.
The wounded officer, a 20-year veteran, was in surgery Sunday afternoon after being shot multiple times, but was expected to survive, Wentlandt said. He was sent to the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, south of Milwaukee, after a 911 call about 10:25 a.m. (11:25 a.m. ET).
Carolyn Bellin, a spokeswoman for Milwaukee's Froedtert Hospital, said one of three men brought there from the incident was in surgery early Sunday morning, while another was in the surgical intensive care unit. The third was being evaluated in the emergency room. All three were in critical condition.
The temple has a congregation of 250 to 400, according to its website.
"I just want to say this temple was built a number of years ago and there have never been any problems with this temple," Oak Creek Alderman Dan Jakubczyk said. "They've been a plus to this city and to my district."
 
Ugly. Ugly. Ugly. And of course the CNN comments section has already targeted the suspect as being a tea partier that confused Sikhs with Muslims.
 
I just wish that people would respect all religions and all human life.

If the gunman was depressed or angry at something, why not go lift some weights? Go fishing? Watch a good movie?

Why go shoot up people? Why make other people miserable?

Is our society more violent than others? Are we more gun crazy? Why or why not?
 
Ugly. Ugly. Ugly. And of course the CNN comments section has already targeted the suspect as being a tea partier that confused Sikhs with Muslims.

Oh believe me, it's not confusion.
All mainstream media outlets are trained to indoctrine the public that anyone that disagrees with the Republican and Democratic parties are
"terrorists".

Plain and simple.
 
I just wish that people would respect all religions and all human life.

If the gunman was depressed or angry at something, why not go lift some weights? Go fishing? Watch a good movie?

Why go shoot up people? Why make other people miserable?

Is our society more violent than others? Are we more gun crazy? Why or why not?

Yes, our society is more violent than others.

Most of the reason is because of failed policies, failed school systems, and an insanely flawed judicial system....
With more citizens in prison per capita, than almost all other countries combined.
And let's not mention the intentionally controlled economy that's dominated by the Federal Reserve, keeping the rich richer, the poor poorer, and the poor in jail.
 
Oh believe me, it's not confusion.
All mainstream media outlets are trained to indoctrine the public that anyone that disagrees with the Republican and Democratic parties are
"terrorists".

Plain and simple.


Well, it was just regular people commenting in this instance, and probably a few hired guns posing as regular people trying to steer the conversation, not the actual network itself, though I'm sure people will be reporting on instances of exactly that nature forthcoming, but I agree with what you said generally. DHS is targeting homegrown terrorists....but they don't actually have any good profile of whom that may exactly be because it happens so infrequently....so they've made up a profile that is essentially anybody that questions government or thinks limited government is good is the enemy and the media does a good job of promoting that. And people start thinking that way too eventually, even though there is no history of that being the case. That's why their early assertions of shooter's profiles have been wildly inaccurate over and over again, but I'm sure they'll eventually hit the mark if they keep repeating the same shooter profile over and over. That whole tell a lie over and over again until it becomes the truth thing at work.

Since there doesn't seem to be a lot of info yet in this shooting, I just always like to preach caution. I hate talking to somebody about an event, such as the Norway shooting or Columbine, and the only thing they remember is all the early misinformation. Even the Batman shooter thing is super interesting a couple weeks out. DARPA connections are showing up. A sub school within his school had a replica shooting drill going on the same day. He was under the care of an Air Force psychiatrist. etc. These things always get far more interesting as real info trickles in, but by that time everybody seems to be tuned out and onto the next thing.
 
Yes, our society is more violent than others.

Most of the reason is because of failed policies, failed school systems, and an insanely flawed judicial system....
With more citizens in prison per capita, than almost all other countries combined.
And let's not mention the intentionally controlled economy that's dominated by the Federal Reserve, keeping the rich richer, the poor poorer, and the poor in jail.

Agreed. We will see more of this sort of behavior rather than less.
 
DARPA connections are showing up. A sub school within his school had a replica shooting drill going on the same day. He was under the care of an Air Force psychiatrist. etc.

Very interesting... where have you heard or read this stuff? The DARPA thing is especially intriguing.
 
Very interesting... where have you heard or read this stuff? The DARPA thing is especially intriguing.

Dr. Lynne Fenton:

https://www.examiner.com/article/co...olmes-psychiatrist-dr-lynne-fenton-and-prozac
In the early 1990s, Dr. Fenton was the chief of physical medicine with the San Antonio, Texas Air Force
There was also something about her being in a different position in an Air Force hospitable, but unfortunetly I can't find it as a lot of her online info has been deleted since she has become a notable name in case.

The shooting drill:

https://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21126462/real-life-shooting-imitates-training-exercise-at-parker

The tragedy that played out in an Aurora movie theater Friday was ironically paralleled as a classroom learning experience in a medical school in Parker the same day.

one of the scenarios being used to train the students is how to respond if a shooter fires at people in a movie theater and also uses a bomb in the attack.

The DARPA connections:

https://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=20965


Keep in mind that I just find these interesting. And in that bottom link there is misinformation(the Tenn plates thing is not accurate for one). I'm not going to throw my chips in the pot right now and say the Batman shooter was a mind control subject or anything based on this info. It's just interesting background stuff and I'm curious to see if people can dig up anything else in the future.
 
Oh believe me, it's not confusion.
All mainstream media outlets are trained to indoctrine the public that anyone that disagrees with the Republican and Democratic parties are
"terrorists".

Plain and simple.

Really? I think it was confusion. You're overestimating how smart skinheads are.
While we're on that, is there any news of who did it? How am I not finding any info about the the suspect?
 
Really? I think it was confusion. You're overestimating how smart skinheads are.
While we're on that, is there any news of who did it? How am I not finding any info about the the suspect?

The most I've heard so far is that the shooter is a skin head/white supremacist and the weapon was a single semi-automatic handgun.

What are the chances that he chose a Sikh temple on Sunday because he knew there would be absolutely no resistance in the form of weapons?
 

Have to love Infowars. Now the thing I want to see is fleshed out interviews with that guys' parents and then the second guy because I can't tell if he is like a spokesman for the temple/group or if he was actually giving a first hand account of what he saw. Or anybody else that was there and says the same thing for that matter. If all these Sikhs were dressed in a similar manner and 4 guys in black stormed in there, it's seems like it would be extremely hard to get that part wrong.

The police obviously don't agree. They are going with 1 shooter.
 
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The most I've heard so far is that the shooter is a skin head/white supremacist and the weapon was a single semi-automatic handgun.

What are the chances that he chose a Sikh temple on Sunday because he knew there would be absolutely no resistance in the form of weapons?

I've actually heard Sikh priests carry daggers.
 
I've actually heard Sikh priests carry daggers.

All baptized Sikhs carry kirpans, or ceremonial daggers. Ceremonial being the key part. I've never met anyone who carries an actual, usable one. The few Sikh students I've had who carry them to school have 4-5 inch ones that are sheathed in such a way that you wouldn't be able to take them out in less than 10-20 seconds.
 
All baptized Sikhs carry kirpans, or ceremonial daggers. Ceremonial being the key part. I've never met anyone who carries an actual, usable one. The few Sikh students I've had who carry them to school have 4-5 inch ones that are sheathed in such a way that you wouldn't be able to take them out in less than 10-20 seconds.

Reps a comin

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This is horrible. I am glad the took the gunman out. Sickening to see. It especially pisses me off when it is a religion targeted or children.
 
All baptized Sikhs carry kirpans, or ceremonial daggers. Ceremonial being the key part. I've never met anyone who carries an actual, usable one. The few Sikh students I've had who carry them to school have 4-5 inch ones that are sheathed in such a way that you wouldn't be able to take them out in less than 10-20 seconds.



This. It is one of the 5 Kakars, or "K's". Some of them are getting even smaller though, like in the centimetre range. Of course, this is more of a recent thing, as every baptized Sikh was supposed to carry a full-sized dagger back in the day.
 
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