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Can Trey Lyles be Our Draymond Green?

Batman

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After hearing Lindsey's interview via 1280 the zone, it's pretty clear why we drafted Lyles. DL believes he can be a play making 4. Seems we like him a lot. DL uttered phrases like "He's a coaches dream," and " He can really make plays at the PF position," and "You will be pleasantly surprised [regarding his ability to defend the high pick and roll.]

Sounds like he's also an excellent passer. And had some very encouraging physical measurements or results.

My question. Do you think Lyles can be our Draymond Green? Discuss.
 
Batman said:
After hearing Lindsey's interview via 1280 the zone, it's pretty clear why we drafted Lyles. DL believes he can be a play making 4. Seems we like him a lot. DL uttered phrases like "He's a coaches dream," and " He can really make plays at the PF position," and "You will be pleasantly surprised [regarding his ability to defend the high pick and roll.]

Sounds like he's also an excellent passer. And had some very encouraging physical measurements or results.

My question. Do you think Lyles can be our Draymond Green? Discuss.
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he is more of our lamar odom then green
 
To be clear, there are probably 8 players they would have drafted BEFORE Lyles if they could have. I think people expecting him to be Draymond Green are probably going to be disappointed. Hell, I'm not sure that Draymond Green is Draymond Green anymore. He is more legend than actual player. That being said, he is pretty good value at the 12 pick. My hope is that he can be developed into a Donyell Marshall who can dominate against bench competition and step into a starter's role when necessary by creating a mismatch at the 3/4 positions. He's not likely to start for us for years, if ever. He is too young and our frontcourt is too good. It would me marvelous if he played well enough to displace Booker, however. . .
 
We need Lyles to be more offensive minded than Green. Green knows there is going to be an open 40% three point shooter with a hair trigger open at any given time, not too hard to find that guy.
On the Jazz, the shooters are far less and accurate, and more importantly, far less willing to take shots.
 
Don't think Lyles has ever shown the same kind of intensity that Green has either. That fire makes up for his lack of physical limitations. I'll be happy if Trey Lyles can come in off the bench and contribute while he's on the court. They want him to be a playmaking four, and he excelled in P&R drills during his workout. As long as he is passible on defense, I'll be happy. I expect some sort of offensive production from him, I just don't want him to be a defensive liability on the flip side. Had enough of that with Kanter.
 
It's very interesting thinking of playing Hayward and Lyles together.
We could have 4 playmakers on the floor.
 
Dr. Jones said:
It's very interesting thinking of playing Hayward and Lyles together.
We could have 4 playmakers on the floor.
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True. At some point one of our guys has to take and make a shot, but there will be enough scoring of the floor.

I feel like we're becoming a bit like the Hawks, except that we have the x-factor that is Rudy Gobert.
 
Catchall said:
True. At some point one of our guys has to take and make a shot, but there will be enough scoring of the floor.

I feel like we're becoming a bit like the Hawks, except that we have the x-factor that is Rudy Gobert.
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This ^^^^

If anything, I'd say that the Jazz hope Lyles can develop into a better version of Paul Millsap. Trey is bigger, but I can see some obvious parallels in their style of play. The nice thing about Lyles is that I think he can play effectively with both Gobert and Favors. That's a great thing for your 3rd big. Not sure if I'd put him at the 5, but he has the size to play with Booker and hold up better than Cooley or Evans did at the end of last year.
 
framer said:
To be clear, there are probably 8 players they would have drafted BEFORE Lyles if they could have. I think people expecting him to be Draymond Green are probably going to be disappointed. Hell, I'm not sure that Draymond Green is Draymond Green anymore. He is more legend than actual player. That being said, he is pretty good value at the 12 pick. My hope is that he can be developed into a Donyell Marshall who can dominate against bench competition and step into a starter's role when necessary by creating a mismatch at the 3/4 positions. He's not likely to start for us for years, if ever. He is too young and our frontcourt is too good. It would me marvelous if he played well enough to displace Booker, however. . .
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There might be 11 guys they would have taken ahead of Lyles. Maybe they liked him more than Turner, maybe more than Kaminsky, but the other 9 Jazz would have preferred almost no question, even Mudiay I suspect. Kinda depressing to think that at 12, they might have taken the guy that was #12 on their board. That said, they did like him more than Booker, Oubre, Portis, Dekker, etc... Hopefully he pans out. I trust DL and the coaching staff, just would have been more excited with a few other players.
 
Dr. Jones said:
It's very interesting thinking of playing Hayward and Lyles together.
We could have 4 playmakers on the floor.
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How about a small lineup with Lyles at the 5 and Hayward at the 4? 5 playmakers! That'd be exciting.

BTW Quin said that Lyles is more likely to play the 5 than the 3 for us.
 
stitches said:
How about a small lineup with Lyles at the 5 and Hayward at the 4? 5 playmakers! That'd be exciting.

BTW Quin said that Lyles is more likely to play the 5 than the 3 for us.
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I don't believe it.. but maybe.
I have always liked the idea of Hayward at 4.. so maybe I should embrace Lyles at 5.
 
Dr. Jones said:
I don't believe it.. but maybe.
I have always liked the idea of Hayward at 4.. so maybe I should embrace Lyles at 5.
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I think it will be super exciting! 5 playmakers on the floor, and hopefully in due time all 5 of them able to hit a 3! 5 wide out! That would open wide open lanes for cutters and rolling bigs... damn! I can't wait to see them try this one! In D it might be a bit problematic, but stilll... exciting nonetheless..
 
stitches said:
I think it will be super exciting! 5 playmakers on the floor, and hopefully in due time all 5 of them able to hit a 3! 5 wide out! That would open wide open lanes for cutters and rolling bigs... damn! I can't wait to see them try this one! In D it might be a bit problematic, but stilll... exciting nonetheless..
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You say this like Rudy isn't a playmaker. . .After this year he'll just be known as French Stockton.
 
I'd feel better about small ball if they had DeMarre Carroll back tbh.

Any of Gobert, Favors or now Lyles along with four wings/guards. Then take your pick between Hayward, Carroll, Hood, Jingles, Burks and Exum. Every potential lineup from that group has some interesting dynamics.
 
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