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I think I finally understood the logic behind Corbin's decision on who starts and how many minutes each player gets.

The main goal: this season is not about wins/losses but about testing what our young players can do if they are asked to be one of the first offensive option - so that they can be evaluated and the Jazz can decide what position should they target in the draft and who may need to be traded. The secondary goal: try to showcase any older players for possible trades.

As a result, he split our bigs and wings into Favors-Hayward as starters, Kanter/Burks as our bench so that they would not compete for a limited number of touches and could discover what they can do. Marvin and Jefferson are showcased as potential complementary starters instead of moving them to the bench where they would have to play a first/second option role: no one will trade for Jefferson/Marvin to be the focal point of the offense, if they have any value it would be only as a quality complementary player to replace an injured starter on a good team.

Finally, Gobert has been moved to the NBADL because the Jazz still perceive Evans as a player that could be developed further and feel that he earned his minutes anyway. That leaves the NBADL as the only place were Gobert can get big minutes.

If one agrees with the above two goals (and I do) there is no other rotation to play and I would say that Corbin is doing a decent job.
 
The problem with your theory is there are different "main goals"

Ty's goal: Win every game and who cares about development because he may not be here next year
DL's goal: Tank and go for a big year next year because he may not be here after next year
Fans goal: Jabari Parker
 
sojodave said:
The problem with your theory is there are different "main goals"

Ty's goal: Win every game and who cares about development because he may not be here next year
DL's goal: Tank and go for a big year next year because he may not be here after next year
Fans goal: Jabari Parker
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I wish this were true - but the reality is if Corbin and DL's philosophies were that polar opposite, then Corbin would have been fired yesterday. Otherwise what does that say about DL as a GM?
 
Dennis said if Ty and the team shows improvement then Ty will be here. So it isn't just about wins this year. I think overall Ty has done a good job with the rotations. I hope that he cuts back Marvin/Jeffersons minutes in order to have Kanter/Burks get their minutes once Gordon gets back. Injuries have also been a factor in the distribution on minutes. I would like Gobert to get a few minutes in the NBA (10-13 minutes like Kanter did last year).
 
doubledribble said:
I think I finally understood the logic behind Corbin's decision on who starts and how many minutes each player gets.

The main goal: this season is not about wins/losses but about testing what our young players can do if they are asked to be one of the first offensive option - so that they can be evaluated and the Jazz can decide what position should they target in the draft and who may need to be traded. The secondary goal: try to showcase any older players for possible trades.

As a result, he split our bigs and wings into Favors-Hayward as starters, Kanter/Burks as our bench so that they would not compete for a limited number of touches and could discover what they can do. Marvin and Jefferson are showcased as potential complementary starters instead of moving them to the bench where they would have to play a first/second option role: no one will trade for Jefferson/Marvin to be the focal point of the offense, if they have any value it would be only as a quality complementary player to replace an injured starter on a good team.

Finally, Gobert has been moved to the NBADL because the Jazz still perceive Evans as a player that could be developed further and feel that he earned his minutes anyway. That leaves the NBADL as the only place were Gobert can get big minutes.

If one agrees with the above two goals (and I do) there is no other rotation to play and I would say that Corbin is doing a decent job.
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Solid post.... i think that corbin has good reasons for the lineups he has went with and think corbin is doing what he thinks he should do.

His wants and needs just happen to be different than alot of the fans wants and needs....... which is actually problem the norm for most franchises
 
I have never bought into the theory that coaches play certain players just to enhance their trade value. A coach coaches to win or he will lose his job. Corbin has always preferred playing vets because he believes that doing so gives him the best chance of getting a "W" for the night. For Ty, player development has always placed a distant second to his goal of getting the win. In nearly every case, Ty has never taken a risk by giving significant minutes to a young player without an injury forcing his hand. The primary exception being playing Trey over Lucas, which proves that even Ty can see something that obvious.

I was listening to Locke's podcast this morning until he decided to go on a tirade about how stupid fans -- and ESPN announcers -- are by insisting Favors and Kanter should always play together. "They stink!" when they are together, last night being the exception. His proof was how bad they played during the start of the season. Hey, Locke, THE TEAM stunk during the first part of the season because BURKE WAS INJURED! It is amazing how much better big men play when you have a competent point guard running the offense.

But that really misses the point of this season: We need to see which of our players are keepers and which need to be traded. Favors and Kanter are two very high picks and we need to see if they can play together; otherwise, one of them is expendable. But the test needs to be fair, which means they should be given the chance to develop chemistry together -- a ten-game sample size without a point guard and with Kanter still recovering from injury isn't enough. Play them together for at least 40 games and then we will know.
 
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