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Utah Jazz: Is the ‘Core Four’ ready to step forward?

By Bill Oram | The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published Apr 20 2013 05:14 pm

When the NBA playoffs opened Saturday afternoon at Madison Square Garden, at least one Jazz player had no interest in tuning in.

"After tasting the playoffs last year and being out of it this year," Derrick Favors said, "I don’t want to watch it."

Gordon Hayward, a basketball savant, had his own thoughts about the Jazz’s 42-39 season and ninth-place finish in the West. "I thought we underperformed with the talent we had on the team," the swingman said.

The Utah Jazz missed the playoffs for the second time in the players’ first three seasons with the franchise. Regardless of the result of what figures to be a busy offseason for the franchise, it will bring the Jazz to a highly anticipated chapter: The development of Hayward, Favors and Enes Kanter into leadership roles.

Along with guard Alec Burks, it’s a group that fans on social media have taken to calling the "Core Four."

Hayward averaged career-high 14.1 points, while Favors registered career bests in points (9.4), rebounds (7.1), blocks (1.7) and minutes (23.2).

Indiana’s Paul George became the first player from the 2010 Draft to be selected to an All-Star team, but Favors and Hayward may become the first from that draft to take over a franchise.

Only five Jazz players have guaranteed contracts for next season; each is young and on the upswing of his career.

"Three years have come and gone," Hayward said, "so it’s time to step up."

But if the Jazz lose Paul Millsap and Al Jefferson to free agency, Favors and Hayward will become the faces of the franchise, while the other young players will fill in key roles. General manager Dennis Lindsey is high on all of them.

"I think we can build a defense around Derrick Favors’ talent," Lindsey said. "I think Gordon Hayward and Alec Burks can take the ball and get creative. I think Enes Kanter can really score. I think Jeremy Evans can finish."

When the Jazz cleaned out their lockers at EnergySolutions Arena on Thursday, they left tasks for the summer. Favors said he would work more on his offensive moves. Hayward left with a challenge from Lindsey and coach Tyrone Corbin to become a vocal leader.

"It’s going to be fun to watch Gordon take over as a leader," veteran point guard Earl Watson said. "I think he has everything it takes to be a leader, because he’s proven it. He took Butler to the national championship game and almost beat Duke."

Fans have clamored for the Jazz to hand over leadership roles to Favors and Hayward along with the rest of the young players, particularly Kanter. But for all their time here, big-contract players such as Jefferson and Millsap, Mo Williams and Marvin Williams have eaten up the minutes.

Of Hayward, Corbin said: "He’s been getting a better understanding from the first year he was here to last year to this year. How he can carry us on the offensive end, how he can make plays for us on the defensive end."

Of Favors and Kanter, and whether they’re ready for starting roles, he said: "They’re better. We’ll see where it goes, if that’s where things end up then they’ll be ready to go."

The challenge the Jazz front office faces, is finding the right mix of veterans to fill out a roster around the young nucleus it believes is good enough to get the Jazz back to prominence. But doing that in a single offseason could prove challenging.

The draft, in which the Jazz will have two first round picks, is not considered particularly deep. Neither is the free agent class.

The returning young players will have enhanced roles, but it won’t necessarily come with immediate success. It’s a direction the Jazz are willing to go in exchange for long-term benefit.

"If the best alternative is to go young and be very young with the [financial] flexibility we’ve built," Lindsey said, "I’m not afraid to do that."

Before Jefferson left the arena Thursday, maybe for the last time as a member of the Jazz, he was asked about the future of a Jazz team led by Hayward and Favors.

"Sky’s the limit," he said.

The Jazz hope so.


What’s next

» Regardless of what happens in a busy offseason, Derrick Favors and Gordon Hayward are expected to take over leadership roles with the Jazz next season.

» Hayward averaged a career-high 14.1 points in his third season, while Favors saw spikes in points (9.4), rebounds (7.1), blocks (1.7) and minutes (23.2).

» The Jazz have as many as 10 roster spots to fill in the offseason due to free agency.
 
who cares washed up vets are gonna take away their minutes.
i will believe it when i see it.
aint GETTING my hopes up again.
haywards minutes have been reduced.
we went full on ALFENSE
 
as bane said:
I learned here that there can be no true despair without hope. So, as I terrorize Gotham, I will feed its people hope to poison their souls. I will let them believe they can survive so that you can watch them clamoring over each other to "stay in the sun." You can watch me torture an entire city and when you have truly understood the depth of your failure, we will fulfill Ra's al Ghul's destiny... We will destroy Gotham and then, when it is done and Gotham is ashes, then you have my permission to die
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so no hope!

if it happens it happens.
if it does not , al re-signs max 5 year contract corbin gets a 4 year extension we get enough alfense to bore us to death. fans will turn away.
jazz get sold
las vegas here we come.


so people please stop it with this "hope"

hope is POISON
 
So Hayward got 14 points a game as a mostly bench player, and starter as a third or fourth option, and starting along side Al. With Al, Millsap, and Mo gone, his Allstar potential will be realized. I don't think he can be a top 5 guy like Harden has become this year due to some strength limitations, but I do see a lot of Harden in Hayward, he's improved his ball handles every year and have no reason to believe he won't improve on this again this coming year as well.

I think he can be an Allstar next year, but realistically I think he does it in 2 years. I see Hayward as a future top 10-15 player, and could have a big jump in production as the leader of the jazz similar to the jump that Harden had this last year as he was finally given the chance to lead a team. I don't think The Thunder fully realized what they had, and don't think the jazz or jazz fans fully know what we have in Gordon. Hayward is a great all around player, shooting, slashing, passing, defense, getting to the line. If he improves on his strength, and rebounding look out.

Bottom line... I can't wait to see what Hayward and the rest of the cor 4 give us.
 
What Ty, our permanent HC, said: "Of Hayward, Corbin said: "He’s been getting a better understanding from the first year he was here to last year to this year. How he can carry us on the offensive end, how he can make plays for us on the defensive end."

Of Favors and Kanter, and whether they’re ready for starting roles, he said: "They’re better. We’ll see where it goes, if that’s where things end up then they’ll be ready to go."

Interpretation of last: "They really are not ready. Good thing management has agreed to bring back Fool's Gold for another 6 years of glory."

Ty just doesn't get it.
 
The biggest difference between Ginobili and Harden, and Hayward, is their handles, mid-range game, and facilitation.

At OKC, Harden was pretty much the main ball-handler for much of their 4th quarters. He was ultra-comfortable with having the offense run through him, and was great off of the pick-and-roll, with the dribble penetration, and with drawing fouls.

Right now, Hayward is getting BETTER off the pick and roll, is nearly-equally as good on the break as the aforementioned 2, and is as good of a distant shooter as the other 2.


There are a few things that Hayward that Hayward might never get, that they have though:

1) The amount of ball control. Manu and Harden have great handles. Great first steps. Hayward's ball control simply isn't up to par as of right now. He's still young though, and he can always improve. If Millsap learned to run a fast break, then anything is possible really.
2) Assisting. This is something that isn't out of the question. If Hayward is leading our offense, he could definitely hover around 4-6 assists per game. He's shown to be formidable off the P&R, he dishes passes to the post pretty well. However, consistency is the key here. We truly don't know how consistent he can be in this role.
3) Mid-Range Game. My biggest worry, really. I rarely see Hayward take contested mid-range shots. It helps with his efficiency, but as a star-player you need to have the "lets make something out of nothing" skill. Whether its getting a floater, a pull-up, a post-game-- Hayward has shown flashes, but no consistency in this category. I really, really hope he works on this along with ball-handling.
 
"I thought we underperformed with the talent we had on the team," the swingman said.

Pretty much sums it up. When a team underperforms it's usually due to the coach AND the players. Clearly we should have done better.
There is blame to go around. I've been saying it all year. It's not just Corbin. He is a key PART of the problem though.
 
I am more excited for next year than I have been since we got Deron. I really hope the FO does not **** it up.
 
"I thought we underperformed with the talent we had on the team," the swingman said.

Pretty much sums it up. When a team underperforms it's usually due to the coach AND the players. Clearly we should have done better.
There is blame to go around. I've been saying it all year. It's not just Corbin. He is a key PART of the problem though.

I really like that Hayward doesn't make excuses and just owns up to the fact that the team underperformed. I wonder if Corbin will have the decision making balls to name him team captain?
 
Core 4 + Ty Corbin <<<<< Core 4 + [insert any name here besides Ty Corbin]

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They will be fine. The important thing is do not replicate the predictable offense that was centered around Al Jefferson. If Kanter has a post advantage, you feed him until they have to double. Outside of that, mix it up. Pick and rolls, pick and pops, even some clear outs for Burks would be refreshing and probably effective.
 
Ok so we can all agree at this point that while Corbin sucks, this year will be the do or die year for him. I don't think we're judging wins as much as we're judging how he sets this team up for the future based upon his schemes and rotations.
 
Ok so we can all agree at this point that while Corbin sucks, this year will be the do or die year for him. I don't think we're judging wins as much as we're judging how he sets this team up for the future based upon his schemes and rotations.

Yeah, I mean I've already decided Corbin isn't a very good coach but he could change my mind if he deals with the post-Jefferson/Millsap era well.
 
Observation #1: Favors has really grown from when he first arrived. He's becoming flat-out nasty. Love his bad attitude; can't wait to see what he does next year.
Observation #2: For better or worse, Hayward is being given the keys (over Mo!). The team NEEDS an undisputed leader. I think Hayward can do that, but that's still an IF.
Observation #3: The Jazz FO is high in Burks. I wouldn't have really guessed that from how Ty treated him at times.
Observation #4: Jazz WON'T be signing high-priced FA's. Maybe Mo, Foye and Carroll return. And Marvin probably opts in. Beyond that, I see Lindsey perhaps getting a backup PG. Any big moves will come at the trade deadline next year as teams try to use of space to get clear of the luxury tax. Make it expensive, Dennis and Kevin! Make teams give us great assets.
 
can you explain to me why?
Seriously?
We have young talent who could simply EXPLODE if given playing time. Favors and Kanter could be absolutely dominant underneath. Many NBA people are high on Hayward, not just Jazz homers. And Burks has shown potential. That said, I'm not counting on the Jazz making it into the playoffs; youth will struggle at times and they won't have great depth. But, with our cap space, some very good deals could come along at the deadline, maybe resulting in a late push or setting us up for the following season.
 
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