DutchJazzer
Banned
Can someone remind me what said defintion of jazz basketball is/waS?
all i know this aint jazz basketball
all i know this aint jazz basketball
Definition of JAZZ Basketball?
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I don't know what it used to be. But the emphasis now seems to be on putting bums on seats.
Doesn't matter whether we win championships or not, as long as we're selling tickets.
And I don't like it one bit
Doesn't matter whether we win championships or not, as long as we're selling tickets.
And I don't like it one bit
The Thriller
Well-Known Member
Jazz basketball used to be:
#1 Hard nosed, physical, and disciplined. We lived in the paint and FT line. We had a (predictable) but devastating offensive play/strategy. Stockton to Malone... Duron to Boozer/Memo. Currently, we avoid the FT line and paint at all costs and have no strategy or idea what the hell works. We rarely play physical, we're mentally weak, and typically come out lackadaisical. We're in... what? Year 3? And I still ahve no clue what the hell Ty Corbin is trying to do.
#2 We used to play inside out. Not chuck from the outside in. In the old Jazz system the "Big 4" would be the primary scorers while Hayward, Burks, etc would be cutting and slashing to the rim rdy to receive passes from the post players. The PG's primary job was to get the ball to these primary scorers. Today, we have a SG who tries to play PG and 2 PG's who are literally 5 years past their expiration date.
#3 We used to control the tempo, execute until we got the shot that we wanted (even if the shot clock was winding down), and made players in our system better. Duron Williams just reminded us this past week of this fact. Whether it was Howard Eisley, Shandon Anderson, Carlos Boozer, or Duron Williams... Players typically increased while in our system and declined when outside. The exact opposite is occurring right now. We never control the tempo, never execute even good shots, and I honestly can't think of a player in our system who wouldn't benefit greatly by going elsewhere.
#4 Lastly, leadership. Larry, Jerry, Stock/Malone, Duron, etc wanted to win. I'm not so sure Greggy, Ty, and our "star players" are very concerned over that right now. It seems like one is concerned about merely filling his bank account, Ty is busy cheerleading instead of leading, and our "star players" are too concerned with getting theirs so they can request pay increases this summer.
#1 Hard nosed, physical, and disciplined. We lived in the paint and FT line. We had a (predictable) but devastating offensive play/strategy. Stockton to Malone... Duron to Boozer/Memo. Currently, we avoid the FT line and paint at all costs and have no strategy or idea what the hell works. We rarely play physical, we're mentally weak, and typically come out lackadaisical. We're in... what? Year 3? And I still ahve no clue what the hell Ty Corbin is trying to do.
#2 We used to play inside out. Not chuck from the outside in. In the old Jazz system the "Big 4" would be the primary scorers while Hayward, Burks, etc would be cutting and slashing to the rim rdy to receive passes from the post players. The PG's primary job was to get the ball to these primary scorers. Today, we have a SG who tries to play PG and 2 PG's who are literally 5 years past their expiration date.
#3 We used to control the tempo, execute until we got the shot that we wanted (even if the shot clock was winding down), and made players in our system better. Duron Williams just reminded us this past week of this fact. Whether it was Howard Eisley, Shandon Anderson, Carlos Boozer, or Duron Williams... Players typically increased while in our system and declined when outside. The exact opposite is occurring right now. We never control the tempo, never execute even good shots, and I honestly can't think of a player in our system who wouldn't benefit greatly by going elsewhere.
#4 Lastly, leadership. Larry, Jerry, Stock/Malone, Duron, etc wanted to win. I'm not so sure Greggy, Ty, and our "star players" are very concerned over that right now. It seems like one is concerned about merely filling his bank account, Ty is busy cheerleading instead of leading, and our "star players" are too concerned with getting theirs so they can request pay increases this summer.
Agree with all of this
DutchJazzer
Banned
Jefferson who leads the team in minutes is the exact opposite of that
while kanter burks favors carol fit that descirption to a T. yet they play a combined 63mpg
HeavenHarris
Banned
**** you OP, you wishing injury on BIG AL is NOT jazz basketball thats for damn sure. everyone neg this man.
HeavenHarris
Banned
what is the "it's" ur referring to? **** big al all you want. that's different than wanting him to literally get injured.
DutchJazzer
Banned
big al aint jazz basketball
DeliveryBoy
Active Member
I miss this so much, and this more than anything stands out when I watch the games. We see maybe 1 or 2 hard backdoor cuts per game, and I'm shocked when I see a smooth hand off like you'd see in the old days. Just by doing that, even a guy like Ronnie Brewer can look talented.
HeavenHarris
Banned
I don't know what it used to be. But the emphasis now seems to be on putting bums on seats.
Doesn't matter whether we win championships or not, as long as we're selling tickets.
And I don't like it one bit
how many championships did the jazz win in the good ol days bro
friendsinmyhead
Member
He didn't say the Jazz were winning championships, douche. He implied that winning Championships is not necessarily the main goal. It was certianly the goal in the mid to late 90s.
friendsinmyhead
Member
For me Jazz basketball is:
[video=youtube_share;mcGk-TjlHwc]https://youtu.be/mcGk-TjlHwc
Larry looks like he was trying to pass a kidney stone while having a stroke.
HeavenHarris
Banned
i think it is still the goal. HOF players don't exactly grow on trees tho.