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str8line said:
The 5.3/5.8% is probably just the Mass. state tax.

I don't see a hypocrisy here. One persons choice to give more than they owe shouldn't be compared to their position on a tax. If the law changes she will pay more.
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Yea I don't think the issue with rich people not paying taxes should necessarily be a knock on them, it's really about the laws which allow them to do so. It's like when people try to attack trump for using bankruptcy laws to cheat the system, but he's just using the laws that are in place, he'd be dumb not to, even though it may seem wrong from the outside.
 
fgcamel said:
Yea I don't think the issue with rich people not paying taxes should necessarily be a knock on them, it's really about the laws which allow them to do so. It's like when people try to attack trump for using bankruptcy laws to cheat the system, but he's just using the laws that are in place, he'd be dumb not to, even though it may seem wrong from the outside.
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I think a complete overhaul of the tax laws needs to happen. I'd probably be in favor of closing most loopholes while not really be for "raising" taxes.
 
Stoked said:
We are probably missing a lot of things to be honest.

What loop holes does she qualify for that we don't?
Was this just a strict income tax %?
What other taxes does she pay? Property? Capital Gains?
Are things like FICA (which is capped included in the reported %?
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You are probably right. And I'm sure she and others take just as nuanced of an approach to evaluating others when they feel they aren't paying enough taxes.
 
infection said:
You are probably right. And I'm sure she and others take just as nuanced of an approach to evaluating others when they feel they aren't paying enough taxes.
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She probably does. What's your point?

All I was doing was pointing out reasons why that random 5% didn't make sense to Fish.
 
You all make good points. I just think if you're going to advocate for something, and you have the opportunity to do that same thing you're advocating for and you don't, it's a bit hypocritical.
 
Gameface said:
Fish, I think the confusion here is that Howard is only talking about her state income taxes. I'm not looking it up, but Utah state tax is considerably less than federal and I think is usually less than FICA. So just look at what you've paid to Utah.
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Thanks for the info
 
She can volunteer to send the state a check for $500,000 too. But she didn't and she wants to raise taxes?!?! What a hypocrite!!!!
 
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