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Far right political violence in the UK

Rubashov

Rubashov

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After a weekend of organised far right violence across the UK, it leaves me with some very disturbing thoughts;

1. How can this be happening? how are the lessons of history lost on so many.
2. How much of it can be blamed on the former Tory government and their media supporters at Newscorp?
3. It is fairly clear that social media has been a focal point for radicalisation and organisation for these groups how is this stopped?

What sparked this weekend of violence was a triple murder committed by a 17 year old boy, who was born in Cardiff, far right agitators blamed it on an immigrant and it sparked a pogrom across the UK against foreigners. New prime Minister Sir Keir Starmar is a former barrister and Director of Public Prosecution in England and Wales, has promised swift justice, (I believe it will be, Starmar strikes me as very measured and methodical, it will be interesting to compare what happens in the UK with January 6th) what are the forum's thoughts and reactions?
 
I believe the folks in charge of Israel's side of the war are on the far right also

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Rubashov said:
far right agitators blamed it on an immigrant and it sparked a pogrom across the UK against foreigners.
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It sparked a pogrom? It sparked the organized massacre of an ethnic group? Uh, no. The unrest also has no similarity to January 6th. A more apt comparison would be to the killing of George Floyd which sparked riots across our country, only the roles are reversed.

A deranged individual stabbing 8 little girls with 3 of them dying is horrible, but to understand the reaction requires some context. There were gangs of Muslim men that were raping UK girls. This went on for years with these Muslim gangs raping an estimated 2,000 underage girls with most being in the 12-14 year old range. The UK police refused to stop the Muslim child rape gangs for almost a decade out of fear of being called racist. In any investigations that did happen, details such as ethnicity and immigration status were not recorded. Finally the outrage reached such a level that the UK police were forced to act. All of this is referred to as the Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal.

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Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia

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Then a few days ago some young girls dancing to Taylor Swift were stabbed to death by someone who did not have a pasty ethnically English complexion. UK law enforcement started to investigate and details such as ethnicity and immigration status were withheld. The thing that got the UK police to stop the rape of UK children was massive public outrage, and those organizations sprang in to action. Counter-protestors also assembled to call them Nazis. There are no "pogroms" but there is the odd car being lit on fire. For their part, at least UK law enforcement seems to have learned from their previous tactics of sweeping things under the rug in the name of racial harmony. Information is being released and quick prosecution is being promised.
 
www.telegraph.co.uk

The obscure Russian-linked ‘news’ outlet fuelling violence on Britain’s streets

Channel3 Now falsely named the Southport murderer, sending conspiracy theorists and the far-Right into a tailspin. How did this happen?
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Before the fire and fury in Southport, there was a name – Ali Al-Shakati.

Al-Shakati has never existed, we now know, but that didn’t stop an obscure, Russian-linked fake news outlet from naming him as a 17-year-old supposedly Muslim asylum seeker responsible for the murder of three schoolgirls in the town on Monday.

Channel3 Now, a website that masquerades as a legitimate American news outlet but acts as an “aggregator” for real news stories as well as fake viral claims, published the claim on the back of speculation which appeared to have started on X, formerly known as Twitter.

What had begun as a trickle then became a flood, sending the conspiracy theory pouring out through social media anew, where the name was boosted by thousands of other Russia-linked accounts before being repeated by authentic Russian state media, which cited Channel3 Now in its reporting.

The claim was meanwhile picked up by far-Right figures such as Tommy Robinson – founder of the anti-immigrant English Defence League, which played a major role in instigating the riots in Southport and elsewhere this week – and notorious influencer Andrew Tate, whose posts about Al-Shakati garnered millions of views and hundreds of thousands of likes.
 
www.independent.co.uk

Downing Street condemns Elon Musk for claim ‘civil war is inevitable’

Billionaire condemned for ‘extraordinarily irresponsible’ post amid disorder on Britain’s streets
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Downing Street has condemned Elon Musk for his claim that “civil war is inevitable” in Britain, saying there is “no justification for comments like that”.

The spokesperson added: “We’re talking about a minority of thugs that do not speak for Britain.”

Misinformation on Mr Musk’s social media platform X has been blamed for helping to fuel racist far-right riots and attacks.

Following lies about the identity of the suspect in the Southport knife attack, disorder continued across the weekend as racist mobs clashed with police in Hull, Halifax, Liverpool, London, Southport and Rotherham, and started fires at hotels housing asylum-seekers in Manvers and Tamworth.

With posts featuring misinformation on X garnering millions of interactions, Mr Musk - who bought the platform in 2022 for £38bn – responded to a post on Sunday sharing footage of the violence, which claimed disorder is the “effects of mass migration and open borders”.

“Civil war is inevitable,” the Tesla and SpaceX founder replied. It marks the sixth time since October that Musk has claimed civil war is brewing in Europe.
 
Red said:
“Civil war is inevitable,” the Tesla and SpaceX founder replied. It marks the sixth time since October that Musk has claimed civil war is brewing in Europe.
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Elon Musk owns the dataset. He has the ability to mine it and likely knows more about the regional public mindset than any government on Earth. Prove he's wrong.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Elon Musk owns the dataset. He has the ability to mine it and likely knows more about the regional public mindset than any government on Earth. Prove he's wrong.
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He predicted a civil war. I lack the ability to disprove the occurrence of a future event.
 
Crazy how Rupert Murdoch has turned the world against itself, especially in the US. He and The Rapist are doing incredible damage. If The Rapist is elected expect the round-ups of Mexicans to evolve into crackdowns on any perceived enemy.
 
Elon is a disgusting pig. He's shown who he is in his personal and now his public life. I used to think he was brilliant now I realize he is deeply flawed.
 
str8line said:
Crazy how Rupert Murdoch has turned the world against itself, especially in the US. He and The Rapist are doing incredible damage. If The Rapist is elected expect the round-ups of Mexicans to evolve into crackdowns on any perceived enemy.
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I think it will go beyond that, immigrants will be placed in camps, likely private prisons with forced labor, books will be banned in schools, I have a feeling that many government services will be de-funded. In terms of political opponents, the legal system will be exploited as afar as possible for revenge.
 
str8line said:
Elon is a disgusting pig. He's shown who he is in his personal and now his public life. I used to think he was brilliant now I realize he is deeply flawed.
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its also worth noting the amount of co-ordination on the right in Australia, UK and the US. Murdoch and his cronies have been a big part of this, some of the anti immigrant rhetoric coming from the Torries was word for word the sort of stuff bleated by ministers in the Howard government here during the early 2000's after about 15 years of blaming immigrants for everything the electorate began to tire of it. The liberals at present are trying to blame inflation on legal immigration and economic mismanagement, you know war level spending by their government (which was necessary) during the pandemic, 15 years of politicising energy policy and unchecked corporate greed as drivers of inflation are only being spoken about by economists and the Australian Council of Trade Unions.
 
Rubashov said:
I think it will go beyond that, immigrants will be placed in camps, likely private prisons with forced labor, books will be banned in schools, I have a feeling that many government services will be de-funded. In terms of political opponents, the legal system will be exploited as afar as possible for revenge.
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Books banned in schools just like Utah did last week?

www.sltrib.com

It’s official: These 13 books are now banned from all public schools in Utah

The Utah State Board of Education on Friday released this list of book titles that are now banned from all public schools in the state, in accordance with a new law passed this year.
www.sltrib.com www.sltrib.com
 
str8line said:
Elon is a disgusting pig. He's shown who he is in his personal and now his public life. I used to think he was brilliant now I realize he is deeply flawed.
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Eh, everyone is deeply flawed. The question is, how far do his flaws tilt him toward evil?
 
Rubashov said:
My cousin like to say he's not sure if he's the worlds dumbest genius or the worlds smartest retard.
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Just out of touch. That tends to come across as stupidity when it is actually just a glimpse at extreme privilege on levels we can barely fathom as "ordinary" people. It partially answers the question of what happens when a human being has the resources to do and have literally everything they want, far far beyond need at this point. There isn't even a section on the hierarchy of needs to describe it. Or, what comes after the individual has achieved self-actualization, then become bored with it? That is the realm where people like Musk live. No wonder Kim Jong Il pushed the narrative that he was a God. What else do you call it when they can speak it is made to be, if not some level of god-hood? So Musk is a kind of demi-god, or as close as a human can get in this mortal sphere.
 
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